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Hello All:

very interesting site to discover after a frustrating day at the range, when i managed to sort out others problem but did'nt get to the bottom of my own before dark. i rececently pucrcahsed a tikka 308 and topped it with a zeiss 3x9. i bought millet dove tail mounts for it because they were cheaper. in the spring i dialed it in with 150gr. As opening day approaches i wanted a bit of a heavier hit so i bought some 180gr and head to the range. I was hiting high and tried to bring it down and hit the stops. i ran out of light and left the range severly pissed off and promptly hit the garage where i noticed my mounts were not loose but had a couple of loose screws. the whole arrangement came apart and after some reaarangement and clickcountin to was put back together with locktite and evil evil eye.

 

A BIG INTRO NOW

 

1 Can a Ziess conquest be boresighted, I don't want to stupid , but the manual states"recticle changes are not discernable" does this mean to the evil eye or in general?

 

2 Should i scrap the millets and go for some SAKO rings and bases. After an the purchase a local told me he could not adjust the elevation down with the boresighter and the scope was busted(new out of the box), he had an agenda of selling me a scope of his own though. I think the rings and bases would be a much more stable arrangement.

 

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both the scope and the rifle bought new.

 

Thanks for any help and a great site

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I would put up any high end set of rings and bases and a cheaper end scope v.s. a high end scope and a cheaper set of rings and bases.

 

See which one holds its zero better and has closer returnable zero or better yet returnable zero while pulling the scope off and putting back on.

 

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Sorry to hear what happened capergriz, Millet rings and bases are notorious

for low quality and failures and this is one of many cases with Millet products.

Steve(KBOWZL) from Millet was just on here for about an hour a while ago and

instead of responding to this post he decided to throw in some free ads

(he might jump in here in a bit and claim he did not see this post) but we already

got a good example of how he deals with customers in the past. TPS_phil is a good

guy and I will definetly support his quality company. Check out TPS rings and bases.

Good luck with your next set-up.

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Thanks for the kind words SVD666,

I'm not here to take business from SWFA as they are a Super Company and a great asset to the shooting community.  SWFA does offer a wide variety of rings and bases!  I'm just on here to help and to convince them that TpS will be good for there company...

 

http://www.opticstalk.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=4525&PN=1

 

Samples coming next week Chris...

 

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I would put up any high end set of rings and bases and a cheaper end scope v.s. a high end scope and a cheaper set of rings and bases.

 

See which one holds its zero better and has closer returnable zero or better yet returnable zero while pulling the scope off and putting back on.

 

 

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Welcome to The OT!!

 

I don't recommend Sako rings.

Over priced and the cap screws are a first class pain in the ass to deal with. (Too soft and strip out easily)

Ask me how I know!! 

 

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I have a similar set up to yours. However, my Tikka is chambered for the 6.5 X 55 SE. Use the rings shown below  and I think you will be very happy:

 

http://www.riflescopes.com/products/940714/talley_lightweigh t_aluminum_1_scopemount.htm

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What do you guys think of Leupold Rings and Bases?  Are they still considered a "quality" product?

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I have never liked leupold rings and bases, they are overpriced for the quality.

 

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I would say that your problem was the Millet rings and your salesman.  I have bore-sighted all of my Zeiss scopes.  I use Redfield style rings and bases, usually from Leupold.  If you take the time to install them right (including lapping), you will never have a problem.  Also, you should never use Loc-Tite on your rings.

 

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Thanks for the prompt replys:

Much more satisfying day today. Zoned it in at 25 and took it to 100 for the final tuneup. got down to where i wanted to be in a couple of groupings. I had the allen key with me to check throughout and after 30 rounds the mounts seemed to be steady as a rock with out loosening. when remounting i spread the mounts out a bit and it seems to have a better grip on the scope. for the final result i took out a large coffee cup at 100 freehold. I will probably still replace with new mounts and bases in the future. the millets seem to hol the scope real high for a med mount and i like them closer to the bore.

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Originally posted by Tip69 Tip69 wrote:

What do you guys think of Leupold Rings and Bases?  Are they still considered a "quality" product?

 

I have always been treated right by Leupold rings.

No problems ever.

 

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How about Buris Signature rings with the plastic inserts?  I have started using them and so far have no complaints.  I too have a Tkkka and did not like the rings it ccame with so I bought these rings and bases.  They will not leave ring marks either...........
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Burris signature rings and mounts are the best for hunting IMO and eliminate
alot of work with beutifull results. If you plan on bieng very rough with
your rifle and type of hunting try Tactical rings and mounts like TPS.
Here is the Burris signature High gloss rings.I will post another pick tonight
of another set-up where I decided to use tactical rings due to the recoil of the .375 H&H with special loads,
that works very well.

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leupold's rings will never let you down -

 

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Beautiful rifle/scope pic, SVD666.

 

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SVD666....... those Burris rings look just like my Luepolds....... are they made by the same company?
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Thank you Cheap.

 

Hello Tip69

Burris Signature rings are very different than your standard turn-in
rings like the Leupold STD rings. Check out this link so can see the
advantages.


http://www.burrisoptics.com/sigrings.html

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Sure sounds impressive.....I've often wondered about stress or overtightening.  I don't think Cabela's sell those, where did you get yours?
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I bought mine from (competitor)Usa.com
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Even the most hardcore of Leupold fans like rootmanslim that have tried the Burris Signature rings

have praised them as really working,check out the hard kicker post. SWFA sells them.

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Here I went with tactical rings due to the recoil.

 

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Originally posted by cheaptrick cheaptrick wrote:

Beautiful rifle/scope pic, SVD666.

 

 

+1

 

Drooling over those two scopes!!!  Beautiful! 

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Thank you Ceylonc, I look foreward to seeing the pics of your new great scope.
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Stick with Warne mounts and rings, non QD and you will never go wrong.  Somewhat more difficult set-up, that takes all of an extra 30 seconds, but in the end a far better product than all of the above.  All of my high end Weatherby mags use them and have never lost zero.  Another favorite, which has never failed me, even these heavy mags, which should be no problem on the 308, is the light weight one piece Talley mounts/rings, which are a breeze to setup.  You will not be disappointed with either.  Good Luck.

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Originally posted by Dolphin Dolphin wrote:

Stick with Warne mounts and rings, non QD and you will never go wrong.  Somewhat more difficult set-up, that takes all of an extra 30 seconds, but in the end a far better product than all of the above.  All of my high end Weatherby mags use them and have never lost zero.  Another favorite, which has never failed me, even these heavy mags, which should be no problem on the 308, is the light weight one piece Talley mounts/rings, which are a breeze to setup.  You will not be disappointed with either.  Good Luck.

D. Overton North Carolina

 

+1 on Warne.  I use both their QD and standard picatinny rings.  Love them both but will probably go with non QD for the next scope.  If Warne isn't your thing, give strong consideration to Burris XTR rings.  Great quality construction at a reasonable price ($40-50).

I'm a huge fan of Warne's one-piece tactical picatinny base.  Very high quality.

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