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Thanks for the response , so are you saying that the zeiss scopes have the better glass , because I would rather pay for clearity and resolution. How does the Sightron line up compare to Zeiss. I was talking to a friend who is a guide . and he was of the opinion that Swarovski was a cut above Zeiss, at least in binocs.

Also is the Zeiss up to a lifetime of real world hunting use.

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I would say that the Sightron lineup would be a step down when compared to the Zeiss Conquest and several steps down from the Zeiss VM series.  I'm not taking anything away from the Sightron scopes but the ones you mentioned are in a whole different league.


I have no experience with Schmidt & Bender but I know they come very highly recommended and with a huge price tag attached.  I have handled a Swarovski American series scope and thought it was very nice it was the cheaper of the Swarovski line and I personally like the Zeiss VM series better but maybe the Swarovski PH series would be a better comparison. 


As far as Swarovski binoculars being a cut above the Zeiss, I think once you get to the German three Swarovski, Zeiss, Leica it comes down to personal preferences.  Yes the Swarovski costs a little more (usually) and they may very well be "better".  Swarovski has a great marketing department which is very successful at promoting their product.  Personally, I like Leica out of the group, just based on how they feel, look, and preform.  But then again I dont have that kind of cash to toss at a pair of binoculars so till then I will get about 95% of the preformance of the big three from my Swifts and be very content with my Zeiss Conquest.


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Zeiss is defineately above Sightron.  The newer top of the line Zeiss FLs are generally considered by many to be the best bino made.  A year ago your buddy might have been right about Swaro having better binos, but not any more.  Zeiss is argueably among, if not the the toughest optics made.   



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I have owned Swaro and now Zeiss Binos and I and other family members have taken advantage of the warranty from both these companies. My and my families experience is both Zeiss and Swaro will replace damaged product with no questions asked. On a side note the Swaro rifle scopes and bino that failed were due to field use and the one Zeiss Scope had been run over by a vehicle at the bell.


I have owned S&B Products as well and their service is amazing. They will custom make reticles, take older S&B Scopes do complete rebuilds and upgrades and will sevice your scope with no questions asked. I have never seen a S&B nor heard of one fail... due to use.


Now to your question.


I prefer the S&B Scopes due to the choice of reticles and in particular the mil dot reticles in the Precision Hunter Line. The Zeniths (Which I do not own but have checked out) are trully amazing for dawn / dusk and the PMII line is a work of art for its target precision, build and return to POI. Also until recently the S&B can be had in 42 and 50mm Obj lenses and the Zeiss you had to jump to 56mm.


The glass used in S&B scopes are as good as it gets and the only other scopes IMO that come to mind in the same category are USO, and the models in the VM Zeiss Series. I do own Zeiss FLs and they are a step up from my Swaro Binos. My "feeling" is the strong suit of Zeiss is great glass with great coatings.


There is no doubt Zeiss makes great product. They make glass in every category and I would argue they should be considered in the top 1, 2 or 3 in any category compared. I cannot speak to sightron but if you are considering between those two you should not worry about buying Zeiss.

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Have any of you been able to compare the XOTIC to Zeiss/Swarovski/S&B.?

I have only been around or used Sightron/Leupold/SuperSniper/tasco/Bushnell/Barska/Springfie ld scopes and my Personal opinion is that the XOTIC beats all of these in clarity.

I got to look through a Leica spotting scope and think that it may have been a little clearer than my XOTIC scope

Tell me what you think!

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