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Bought one and it gives me the typical Zeiss feeling. Quality unmatched. Ranging seems to be very accurate. Ranges in all kind of weather. Will keep it like all other Zeiss products.

Asked my daughter if she wanted my Nikon 1200, but no she said. She is going to buy a Zeiss too. Or more correctly I have to buy her one.Big Grin
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I also picked one of these up a few weeks ago - ranges to 1200 pretty easy - without a tripod.  Im happy with it.
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I just got one too
 
Made in Japan
 
Nice optics
 
I would like more accuracy (in terms of ranging what the reticle is on) but it is no worse than any other in that respect
 
Zeiss have a rebate program on these ($100) bit the terms of the rebate are so stringent that few people will likely bother to send it in.
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I got the Zeiss at Shot Show in January and its the best IMHO. However, I have never had the pleasure to own or use Sworo.
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Just got the PRF yesterday myself.  Agree with what everyone above has said.
 
Great unit, very repeatable ranging.
 
Posted a review over on snipershide under scopes - observation devices.  Here's the edited version -
After months of debating between a Leica or a Zeiss PRF rangefinder, I finally pulled the trigger and ordered the Zeiss PRF.

First off, the PRF is a little bigger than other brands (leica, leupy, etc.) Instead of holding it vertically like the afore mentioned, the PRF is held more like binos. Let me just say that I like this feature as it feels more steady, and both hands seem to have a natural place to hold onto the unit. While it is bigger than a Leica, it doesn't come across as too big and it fits my mitts nicely. Weight seems right, not too light where it would easily move away from your intended point of aim, but not too heavy where you'll tire from holding it up. It's not as pocket friendly as the Leica appears to be, but I don't foresee that to be a problem for my uses.

The unit comes with a nice padded nylon case that holds it shape and has a sewn nylon tab on the back if you want to wear it on your belt or lash it to a pack. The lid is secured by a ample plastic buckle. On the inside of the lid of the case is a small zippered compartment to hold the included Zeiss lens cloth. Other accessories include a eyepiece cap with tether string, as well as a lanyard to wear the unit around your neck.

Set up was a breeze. One long hold on the "set" button and I was into the menu. I quickly changed it from EU 0 (meters) to US 0 (yards). I have not yet turned on the ballistic feature as I don't know if I'll use it. If/when I do, I'll update this thread. One note on the ballistic feature - it is not tailored to your specific load. You have to know the drop for the round you are shooting and refer to the instructions and pick a table that is close. I'll get into that later as I'm still working up some loads and need to spend some time at the range getting drops and chrono data, then compare my actual dope to the available drop settings on the PRF.

The button to initiate ranging is easy for your finger to locate without looking. Pressing down on the button turns on the unit. When you let off the button, the range measurement is taken. I happen to like the press for on, let off for range sequence as I don't feel I'm getting off target when relaxing my finger.

If by chance you inadvertantly press the setup button instead, the setting code is displayed for a moment, but is not changed.
 
I'll also mention that the PRF is rated for max range of 1300 yards - under ideal conditions.

Took the PRF outside this AM. Time 08.00 - clear and sunny, blue skies. Each range was lasered at least 3 X and was repeatable. I'd also take a few steps forward or backward and range the same target. Dead on, then from the original spot, test again with the same repeatable result.

With a big wide open grassy field before me (on the edge of town) I was able to range the following in yards:

Black Lab (Dog)..............451
Yellow Lab...................501
Wood telephone pole..........521
Tree line w/white trash bag..475
Tree line w/another bag......521
grassy knoll out in field....448
white post...................1057
silo.........................1043
Man & black lab..............350
4x4 orange traffic sign......882
building peak/shingles.......928
2 Canadian geese.............181
2 more geese.................290
water tower..................1403

It's supposed to cloud up with the chance of rain this afternoon, hopefully giving me different conditions. I will re-range more targets then and post more data towards evening.

I will note that the ranges while very repeatable, do require a steady hand. Propping the Zeiss on top of a wooden deck railing really helped....... drank too much coffee this morning.

Hopefully later in the day I'll be able to range more people and dogs out walking. I figure if I can get repeatable ranges on 30 - 80 lb. dogs of different colors, I should be able to accurately get coyotes, deer, etc. too.

Will try to find a large pasture and range some cows of different colors tomorrow. It's supposed to rain, so that should offer some different conditions.

All in all I must say that so far I'm really impressed with the Zeiss. Other than the fact that it is bigger than the Leica, I have no complaints with it what so ever. While not a cheap unit ($699.00), it is cheaper than the Leica 1600 ($799.00)or the highly recommended Swarvo unit ($999.00).

Ah yes, the glass..... I seriously think I can leave my binos at home. The glass is crystal clear and the 8 power mag. of the unit is steller. Granted you'll be looking through a monocular, but the glass in the Zeiss is alot better than my Leupy binos.

Edit -
Went back out this afternoon to overcast, no sun, very light drizzle. Time - 15:30

Re-ranged the targets from this morning from approx. the same spot (give or take a yard). The only different variable was another black lab dog who was strolling along.

Black Lab...................510
Same white post.............1057
grassy knoll................448
Tree line w/white bag.......475
Other tree line w/white bag.520
Same 2 Canadian geese - nesting..180
4x4 orange traffic sign......882
Same builiding peak/shingles..927
water tower.................1403

Being able to range black dogs consistantly at over 500 yards has me impressed so far. Black being one of the worst colors to reflect.

With any luck, I'll get out in the morning when it's raining harder and range some cattle or horses at further distances for comparison.



Edited by FireEMT5 - April/29/2011 at 17:13
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Went out again today, right behind the fire station.  Was able to range deer on the edge of the woodline from 450 - 500 yds.  A group of does was out feeding.  Ranged several of them multiple times and got consistant results.
 
Hope to get out again soon and try more critters at even longer distances.
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When you have some time, please see if your range findings change at 900+ yards on a very hot and sunny day;  I'd be interested to hear what you found. No rush, I know that in Minnesota it may not be for another couple of months. 
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I certainly will do that.
 
I ranged some cattle last night just before dark at around 490 yds.  Same consistant range with each attempt. 
 
Temp. was only 36 degrees.  Coldest May 2nd since 1910.
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I just got one of these a few days ago and highly recommend it. I had a Swaro but frankly don't feel they are worth the money. There were a few reservations about trading an LRF that I've taken out to 1934 yards for one with a max range of 1300 yards. My first LRF was a Nikon 440 and while it was okay, it stopped ranging just where range really starts to matter. The Swaro has a mounting hole so it could go on a tripod, but I don't think I ever even tried that at home. It also has a slightly larger exit pupil.

The Zeiss on the other hand, is costs $400 less and is lighter, ranges faster and will (according to their specs) range many more times. I really like that it ranges when you release the button. That may not sound like much, but as FireEMT5 pointed out, it doesn't knock your hold off the target much. That is one thing I was always surprised by with the Swaro. It has a pretty stiff button. Speaking of stiffer, the focus ring on the Swaro is...but in a good way. The Zeiss doesn't feel quite as smooth and solid.

The Zeiss has ranged everything I've tried out to 1234 yards (so far all I've been able to try in the terrain nearby) and seems to do quite well against background light and dark and in a variety of lighting conditions. It's lightning quick and the display is very easy to read. I don't have much use for the ballistics, but I don't mind that it's there.
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I have one of the Zeiss RF on the way. The one thing that I know I wont like is the fact that I can't hook up my bino harness to it. I bought a small Minox spotter as well, and wanted the RF to hang where my binos do now. No sense carrying all 3. I noticed the Swaros are set up for bino straps. I think I might end up wishing I had bought those instead from the sample list at $699. I guess I will modify something so that I can hang them like my binos. If anyone has any ideas please let me know.
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The Swaro has a nice strap. However, since I hunt almost all the time with a backpack that has a small chest pack I always kept them in there. That avoided getting them dirty or beat up. I also hate straps around my neck, especially when hoofing it a few miles uphill and getting sweaty. The size and weight are low enough you may find it's not a big deal to you to keep it elsewhere than a harness.

I had a seamstress take a long-sleeve hunter orange shirt and make a custom vest out of it. The leftover fabric from the sleeves made a couple pockets sized for a GPS unit and a radio. I had her cut slits in front to stick my hands through when walking in the cold.
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I realy like carrying my binos on my harness. I also hate a strap around my neck. The harness is great and I feel no strain. I know I am going to like the quality of the Zeiss. I just thought after the fact that having bino style clips, for a harness would be ideal for carrying, and make for quick easy use from under my jacket.
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Went out for a couple of duck hunts, then the opening of dear season. I was very impressed with the Zeiss RF, but I could have done without carrying my binos as well. I realy would like to be able to hook up my bino harness to the rf, and use it for both while walking.
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I bought a set of these, and so far impressed! Ranged the local air control tower at 1365y, my old Leica Geovids couldnt pick it up. The glass is very clear, and also like the moving target feature too. I miss the Geovid bino feature, but sure dont miss the weight of those things!!
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Yes they are exceptional. I have ranged everything under the sun in the last year. I still feel that the bino clips are a big detriment. When tromping in the bush for hours at a time, I don't need to be carrying binos as well as the range finder. The range finder stays behind,,, too bad.
To me this is an inexcusable fault, for such a good product. I will be selling them as soon as I get the deal I want on swaros. I even spoke to zeiss, and all they said is there have been many complaints about this, but no changes were coming. What a minor change to make this a product Superior to swaro. IMO
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