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    Posted: March/19/2014 at 15:11
Anyone have any input on these?
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Koshkin is reviewing my 3-9x42 in comparison to the 3-9x40 Conquest that the Terra line replaces. I'm supposed to have mine back home in a couple of weeks whe he finishes up. Hopefully he'll post his findings soon.
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I have the Conquest 2-8x32 and the Terra 2-7x32. I made some comparissons earlier in the year on this forum.
Bottom line is this: Between 2x and 5x powers, i could not see any difference and the Terra was excellent and as good as the Conquest.
Above 5x power, the Terra had less and less eye relief and required me to change my head position to get closer to the scope. Useless anyway, because above the 5x the Terra lost sharpness and brightness. It was unuseable at 6x and 7x.  
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Originally posted by anweis anweis wrote:


I have the Conquest 2-8x32 and the Terra 2-7x32. I made some comparissons earlier in the year on this forum.
Bottom line is this: Between 2x and 5x powers, i could not see any difference and the Terra was excellent and as good as the Conquest.
Above 5x power, the Terra had less and less eye relief and required me to change my head position to get closer to the scope. Useless anyway, because above the 5x the Terra lost sharpness and brightness. It was unuseable at 6x and 7x.  


Koshkin hasn't given me any indication of how mine compares to the conquest but if its as bad as you say yours is, I'll be selling it and getting the meopta or minox.
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Actually i don't think that the 32 mm Terra is bad. Up to about mid-power it is every bit as good as the 32 mm Conquest.
I hunt with my scopes on 3x anyway, maybe i shift to 4x or 5x if i have time for a careful shot.
However, the design of the eyepiece on the Terra is similar to many other moderately priced scopes: higher power = less sharpness, brightness and eye relief. This design is inferior to that of the Conquests.
I wanted a smaller and lighter 32 mm scope of excellent quality for hunting, with the same reticle as my other scopes. My Terra is exactly that. A very good and comfortable to use hunting scope.
There is more to a hunting scope that just one performance or another. I look at the entire package.
I can shoulder the rifle with the Terra quickly, and i end up with both eyes open aiming at the target and seing a sharp and bright image. It works.
 
However, if i were to look into 3-9x40 scopes, i may look for a Conquest instead. I have 2 of those and i think that at $350-$400 they are unbeatable.  
 
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As long as there is a 3-9x $400 Meopta/Euro there's no need for a Terra riflescope to even exist. 
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Originally posted by JGRaider JGRaider wrote:

As long as there is a 3-9x $400 Meopta/Euro there's no need for a Terra riflescope to even exist. 
 
Well, yes and no. Yes, the Meopta is awesome, no Meopta does not sell 32mm models.
In fact, had Meopta made and sold a small/light 2-6x32mm with a nice no. 1 or no 4 reticle, i would have bought it. I don't like their no 4, the thin lines are too thin and the thick lines are too thick for me. If Meopta had in their $400 scopes the no 4 reticle used by Nikon in their 1-4x20 African, i would have bought 5 of them by now.
 
Granted, the 32mm Terra are not much  smaller and lighter. Just a bit. I would have prefered another Conquest 32mm, but they are not available. Since i already hunt with the #20 reticle on 3 other scopes, i prefered the Terra to other models. 
 
On the other hand, if the eyepiece on the Terra 2-7x32 were configured to be a 1.5-5x 32, the scope would have been perfect and i would have had nothing bad to say about it. It is an excellent scope with excellent and forgiving eye box. Just not useable past 5x. In effect, i look at it as an excellent 2-5x32 scope. 
 
Also, let's not generalize. I am sure Koshkin will find something good to say about the 3-9x40 Terra model, which  may be better. But, the annoying variable eye relief is still there. Come to think of it, some scopes that cost $400-$800 have this and are still deemed excellent.


Edited by anweis - March/21/2014 at 15:06
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Originally posted by JGRaider JGRaider wrote:

As long as there is a 3-9x $400 Meopta/Euro there's no need for a Terra riflescope to even exist. 
Where can I find a 3-9x Meopta for $400?
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Can't and won't link to any competitors.  Sorry. 
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Originally posted by CJarvis CJarvis wrote:

Originally posted by anweis anweis wrote:


I have the Conquest 2-8x32 and the Terra 2-7x32. I made some comparissons earlier in the year on this forum.
Bottom line is this: Between 2x and 5x powers, i could not see any difference and the Terra was excellent and as good as the Conquest.
Above 5x power, the Terra had less and less eye relief and required me to change my head position to get closer to the scope. Useless anyway, because above the 5x the Terra lost sharpness and brightness. It was unuseable at 6x and 7x.  


Koshkin hasn't given me any indication of how mine compares to the conquest but if its as bad as you say yours is, I'll be selling it and getting the meopta or minox.

Here you go:

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As always a great review,Thanks Ilya...........
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Great write-up as usual Ilya!
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