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I am thinking about my next purchase for my binocular collection.  I am often glassing in early mornings and late for deer as do most.  I have a pair of Steiner 10x50 Nighthunters,
that I do like, but am thinking about some Zeiss 8x56 Night Owls.   For some of you that are familiar with this older glass, I know they are heavy, I can handle that.  Tell me about how
the lens quality campares with newer glass and also brightness.
I'm looking for the brightest thing I can get at a used price.
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THe FOV on the older Dialyt 8x56 is very poor.
That together with the centerfocus is a perfect reason to not buy them.
The newer 8x56 have much better FOV and also picture quality and of course higher price.
 
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If you are talking about the Design 8x56 B, like the one pictured here,
They are very bright and sharp. Compared to the newer Victory FL 8x56, they have a bit warmer colors and more color fringing. I would say that the new FLs are superior optically and in design. The field of view is less in Dialyt (360 feet compared to 390 in Fl). Also, the central focuser, which is nice to have, is better in the FL. In the NightOwls the focuser is a bit more difficult to reach and operate, especially with gloves. Overall, if you can buy them for $800 less than an FL, i think that it's a good price. 
However, if you are thinking about this one:
then i would say be very careful. This model (Dialyt) was manufactured for many years. The first ones did not have the T* coatings and the phase coatings. This model is seriously outdated, maybe even inferior to the Conquest 8x56 available today. If you buy this one, make sure at least that it has the T*P* markings. The Dialyt does have less field of view (330 ft.).  


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When I started reviewing binocs awhile back I tested that very 8x56 Nightowls. Low light viewing was awesome but I couldn't handle the weight - it was like toting around a couple of bricks.
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Yeah, they were heavy.
 
I remember when the Night Owls came out, and a couple of older hunting/shooting writers said that their optics were so perfect that binoculars couldn't get any better. Which just shows that even some pretty experienced people should know better than to say "This isa the absolute best possible!"
 
The Night Owls are still quite good in low light.
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NDhunter, I have a pair of the Zeiss Dialyt binos in the photo, in 7x42 with only the "T" marking, so they are not phase coated. I bought them, used, a few years ago and ,even without the P coating, I find them far brighter and a bit sharper than a new set of Pentax 8x42 pcfSP, which I REALLY like. For all around hunting, (I still hunt rough terrain and hunt hard so I'm not kind to my equipment), the Pentax's are great. Thick bush and open fields, very rugged and sharp image. However, when looking into bush, well past sunset, the old Dialyts look almost as if someone had a small light shining over the  bushline. I know phase coating should make the image better but I paid less than 1/2 what the Pentax SPs cost and they are noticably brighter.  If I were going on a night stand, or early morning, I'd take the Dialyts, no question. I'm still surprized that an old bino performs this well. BUT, for stillhunting, they are a bit long, though not uncomfortable, and I'd chose the Pentax's for this. The Zeiss is one of my best buys, top optics but a bit overly long. I'd buy them again if I lost these. 

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You have me a little confused.  There is no Pentax 8x42 PCF SP. There is the (Porro prism) PCF WP (and WP II) and the (roof prism)  DCF SP.  Which do you have?
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Sorry about that, (I type badly, haha), it is the 8-42 DCF SP. I think without going into the orbital spending, this is an exceptional value for a hard use bino. I'm not "welded" to the Pentax brand, just when I was looking at every bino I could get my hands on, this one stood out as sort of "having it all", at about 1/4 the cost of either the Swaro or Leica I wanted to get. (I compared the Pent with the Swaro at the same time.)Still want the Leica but the way I hunt I'd be reluctant to take it into the woods. Also I checked back and the Zeiss was really more like 3/4 the cost of the Pentax, however, I got a really good deal on the Pentax. Still really happy with both. The Zeiss, even though it's old, still has exceptional optics. If I bought a Leica today the tax would be the same as what I paid for the Zeiss. (I live in Canada and we're taxed to death.) Sorry for the error.
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