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Gents,

$ 1 000000 $ question, giving me headaches.

On my main hunting rifle, a Winchester Supergrade 270wsm.

I have two scope in hand and I can’t make my mind to which one put-on.

I like playing with my rifle from 100 to 700 yards on AR500.

I shoot around 300 rounds a year with this rifle.

I have:

-Zeiss HD5 3-15x42mm Z800 reticle-Vortex PST 4-16x50 FFP moa.

I love them equally but for different reasons, 

Can you please give me a hand to make my mind

 

Thanks for your time,

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HD5 has better glass

your call
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Originally posted by ccoker ccoker wrote:

HD5 has better glass

your call


+1. Not putting down the Vortex, but I like the Zeiss.

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The Zeiss with the RZ800 reticle is matched to your .270 WSM trajectory to 800 yards.  For that and several other technical reasons, I would go with the Zeiss HD5 over the Vortex.
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Oldtrader3,
thanks for the input,
I agree with your statement, but this is only true when the scope is set too the highest magnification.
Thats why I like the Vortex in MOA, where the reticle is set in the first focal plan.
the reticle value did not change with magnification.
 
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What is the higher priority for this scope and rifle -- hunting or range shooting? I've got a similar dilemma trying scope a 6.5CM for dual use, and I'm finding the answer to that question to be dictating my scope choices. I'll shoot a lot more rounds out of my rifle each year at targets, but I'm less willing to deal with compromises with my hunting scopes, so will choose a scope that meets my hunting needs first and my target needs second. In my case, I really like the MOA reticles for a "do everything" scope, but since I don't like to twist turrets while hunting, if I can get a ballistic reticle that matches my rifle well I'll take the convenience of that over use of drop charts, mental math, etc required for the MOA reticles. (The 1st vs 2nd focal plane hasn't been a problem for me -- with big game shots of less than 300 yds, scope magnification setting doesn't matter much because the point of impact only changes by a couple inches. On longer shots, checking/ setting my scope magnification goes hand in hand with playing with my range finder and/or I'll usually carry with the scope at that setting if I'm in open country...)

Right now, the Zeiss HD5 3-15x42 w/Z800 is at the top of my list of scopes under consideration. If I go that route, I'll likely get the Kenton Target Turret retrofit (calibrated with MOA settings) in order to twist turrets and simplify its usability shooting targets. If I had your two scopes in hand AND prioritized my target shooting over hunting, I'd probably consider the Vortex since Zeiss' inherent advantages (at least what I believe Zeiss inherent advantages to be) aren't as noticeable on the target range.
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Eclipse, in the case of the .270 Win, when the scope is set at 13X is when it is optimized for range to 600 yards.  That 13X scope setting should work well for almost everything? 
 
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Originally posted by Oldtrader3 Oldtrader3 wrote:


Eclipse, in the case of the .270 Win, when the scope is set at 13X is when it is optimized for range to 600 yards.  That 23X scope setting should work well for almost everything? 


?????

We are talking for a 270 WSM, the power involve is 15X,
Am I missing something ?


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If you go to the data software pages for the HD5 scopes, they give you a setting of magnification which optimizes your scope for the type of RS reticle that you have in you scope (RS 600, 800, 1000, Varmit etc.).  In my case, for my RS600 reticle with the .270 Winchester, the optimal magnification for using the ladder at various ranges is 13 power set on the scope.  This gives me a zero of, 200, 300, 400, 500, 600 for each of the ladder downward steps in the reticle stages marked 2 through 6.  Pretty handy for my uses and this is why I bought that particular scope.
 
You need to do the same optimization for your .270 WSM, probably with a RS800 reticle.
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Sorry for the confusion, I am shooting a .270 with the RS600 reticle and the optimal is 13X for the reticle.  It would be a different with a different reticle and the .270 WSM.
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