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I am 99% certain it is but I don't see the Victory marking on the side.  Perhaps it is last year or the year before thats model?  Is this scope of the same quality as the new Victories with the awesome new glass coatings?
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Certainly appears to have all the familiar symptoms of a German made Diavari.
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Did the early Victory 2 years ago have the LotuTec coatings? I thought that the LotuTec was only started in early 2007. The pictured scope may be pre LotuTec which is the water repelent outer coating. The pictured scope has the T coating which is the flagship coatings for Zeiss.

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Not sure how or if the scope itself has a Lotu-Tec marking so perhaps someone that owns a LT scope can give it a drive-by to see. I found this PR from Bushnell that indicates a 9-2-08 agreement between them and Zeiss. IIRC, it was sometime around the summer of 08 when Zeiss made the LT announcement causing them to come to an agreement to market a water repellent coating similar to Rainguard.


Bushnell/Zeiss agreement..........

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Zeiss had the LotuTec prior to that. Bushnell called foul, then they came to an agreement. I have a old Zeiss flyer that from Jan of 07  that stated that the Lotec was on selected Binoculars and would be added to other models later in the year. There was a thread on the OT when that happened but I have not had much luck with the the forum search engine finding it yet. 
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Originally posted by SCWoodsWizard SCWoodsWizard wrote:

I am 99% certain it is but I don't see the Victory marking on the side.  Perhaps it is last year or the year before thats model?  Is this scope of the same quality as the new Victories with the awesome new glass coatings?


Yes, it is a Victory Diavari, pre LotuTec coating.  Zeiss just started marking the word "Victory" on the sides of the eyepiece within the last couple years.  According to what Zeiss told me, LotuTec only aids in keeping the lens clean, sheds water and oil, and provides additional protection to the lens surface, but does not improve image quality over the previous generation optics without it.
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The gist of it is basically this. Bushnell developed the coatings back in the mid to late 90's and it made it's first appearance on B&L products. I have a B&L 4200 with Rainguard and a B&L spotter that were purchased @ 97-98. Bushnell took the stance that they were the ones to make it work on sport optics (from a durability standpoint) even though apparently Zeiss was using something similar on eye-wear. That is basically why Bushnell was granted the patent for use on sports optics.

ps. As Ted just stated, the Lotu-tec coatings don't hinder optical performance, but Bushnell's Rainguard actually increased light transmission by almost 1% compared to the 3000/4000 B&L scopes. Not anything you would see perhaps, but obviously the coating formulas are different.

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