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How will the Zeiss Diavari Classic compare to the Zeiss Diavari Victory riflescopes in Low light? I have seen where the field of view is a bit narrower on the Classic and they weigh about an ounce more than a comparable Victory riflescope. They both have T* lens coatings but the Classic does not have the LotuTec coating. To me the Classic seems like a great deal since they will be a minimun $300 cheaper than a Victory. If the low light performance is the same betwwen the two mark me up for a Zeiss Classic either in 2.5-10X50 or 3-12X56. I own a Diavari Victory and it is to me the best there is but if I can save around $300 I will be putting the Classic on a Tikka T3 Lite Stainless I have been needing to scope up. The more info the better on the Zeiss Classic!!!
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This is a tough question, both of these scopes are so new not many people have had a chance to compare them side by side and

pick out the pro's and cons. On paper the specs for the new lotu-tec VM/V seem more interesting, you are already over a grand at

this point why not go all the way and get the latest technology.

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less eye relief, heavier
i wouldnt spend that much and not get the diavari
i think that zeiss wasted time launching this line
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I belive that the classic series is the old Diavari Z, at least that is what the Zeiss sales men told me.

I don't own any classic but i have owned a bunch of Diavari Z 3-12x56 and have one left.

 

The light is defintiely best at 8X to me and I think there is a  lightloss on higher magnifications.

So I belive they are not really up to the VM/V standard, but not very far from it either.

 

Another thing that might be important is that the classic series is longer and have a longer middeltube.

That allows for lower mounting without the use of ultra ugly extension stuff.

But I depending on the rifle the VM/v is no problem to mount low either, but it's all depending on the action length.

 

No so many people seems to care much about the looks of the mounts but i think its important.

 

Regards Technika

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I thank you all for the great info it will help in my decision between the two Zeiss scopes!
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diavari with lotutec?
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Yea I am considering getting the Diavari with lotutec but I am going to take a look at both the the Diavari with lotutec and the Zeiss Diavari Classic hands on first. If I see a noticable difference between the two it will be the Diavari with Lotutec if I do not see much difference it will be the Classic.
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          The Diavari Classic Z and the old Diavari series Z are the very same optics. The performance on the Classic have been enhanced somewhat concerning field of view and weight mainly. The lens and the T* multicoating  (various layer on both sides of the lens) remain the very same. Also eye relief is equal on both. Beware that there are two Series Z: One is the USA. assembled and has MC or multicoated lenses but as far as I know the lenses are not coated on both sides so performance is noticeable less specially on the light transmission department. The other one is made in Germany and has the T* (Transparenz Star?) multicoating just as the Diavari series V. I suspect that the Conquest series may be the old USA assembled series Z with many improvements such as more eye relief  less weight and a simplified tube manufacture. I don´t know because I never saw a Conquest for real.... It seems that it is not sold in European market....

               What I can say for sure is this: I have both. A 2.5-10X48 T* Series Z and a 2.5-10X50 T* Series V. Despite the latter having a somewhat bigger objective lens I couldn´t find any difference (at the same power settings) between both concerning twilight performance. And I tried hard... On the range both have superbly accurate adjustments.(True: What you dial is what you get.) The difference I found is that the Z scope has the tyre effect when settings are between the lowest ( 2.5) and 3.3X aprox. Stepping up the power and the tyre disappears..... But maybe they have already fixed this problem on the New Classic Z.... Anyway it is worth to take a peak with both...

          In my opinion the only real diadvantage of the Classic is the lesser eye relief.....

          Hope that this help you someway....

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Mannlicher7, thanks for your response! Great info and this will definetly help in my decision. Mannlicher7 what is the tyre effect? Thanks again!!!
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By the tyre effect, I presume he means the slight tunnel effect that can be noticed through many variable scopes at the lower limit of magnification.
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I have been studying the specs between these Diavari Classic and the Diavari Victory at the Zeiss German website-zeiss.de. The Classic to me is going to be a great deal for a German made Zeiss scope. The Classic weighs an ounce more, field of view diffrence is very minimal, and eye relief diffrence is very minimal. I have made my mind up to get the Zeiss Classic in-3-12X56 when my hunting shop gets these in stock. I have to by from my local hunting shop for special reasons. I will be in my treestand as late as I can stand to sit with this scope and my Zeiss Victory 8X56 Binos.
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