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 i would like to know how a bushnell 2.5-10x40 4200 compares to a zeiss conquest and is there any differnce in the zeiss 3-10x44 and a 3-9x40 in light geathing looking for a scope for low light conditions and will hold zero under rough conditions atv,truck,ect. also good customer service thanks dale
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how thick are the center hair on the #4 on the zeiss conquest are they visable in low light and still shoot tight groups
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optically they are really close .. maybe a very very slight edge to the Zeiss, but offset by the Rainguard of the 4200 .. The reticle on the Zeiss is a touch bolder, but both will work just fine.. each is very durable . The Zeiss is a bit more $$,and to a price point the 4200 is a better buy, but if the Zeiss is in your budget - it's an excellent choice
 
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It would be a tough call for me as well. The Zeiss has a little bit more eye relief and some more reticle choices. The Bushnell might be a little tougher but I'm not certain how much more so. Optically, they are close.
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Zeiss has an etched reticle. 4200 is wire. I've owned a lot of both and prefer the Zeiss. Do a search here and you'll have more than you can read in an evening. At the end you still won't have an answer though. Been there... Zeiss has MUCH better CS. Been there too.
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Originally posted by martin3175 martin3175 wrote:

optically they are really close .. maybe a very very slight edge to the Zeiss, but offset by the Rainguard of the 4200 .. The reticle on the Zeiss is a touch bolder, but both will work just fine.. each is very durable . The Zeiss is a bit more $$,and to a price point the 4200 is a better buy, but if the Zeiss is in your budget - it's an excellent choice
 


Thanks for posting the link. I've been trying to make up my mind on a scope for my Bob and I've just swung in favour of the 4200.
4200 3-9x are available at very good prices so that's the way I'll be going.

FWIW I've got a Zeiss 2.5-8x and it's my favourite. Very good scopes!!
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i have to bob's thats what i am looking for scopes for one is a winchester 70 feather weight the other is a remington 700 classic
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I have both and optics are a tad clearer and brighter for the Zeiss for my eyes.For the money the 4200 is a better deal. 
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Two excellent scopes. For the cost, the 4200 is hard to beat.
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My policy is to not trade away performance to save a few dollars.  It never evens out at the end.  I am always happier with the high performance item.  Settling for less to save a few dollars always leaves one with regrets.  
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 I'd like to comment on Bushnell's customer service. I own a 2.5-10x40 Elite 4200 and apparently my lens caps grew legs and walked off, so I was in need of another set. I called Bushnell today and asked them if I could buy a replacement set (didn't try to warranty as this was my fault). To my surprise, the gentleman offered to send them to me free of charge.
 Now, I know the lens caps are only $4 + S/H, but I'm greatly appreciative of this, they could've charged me $8-10 but they didn't. I've never had to get any warranty work done so I can't comment on that, and I know warranty work is a lot more important than a set of lens caps, but this means a lot to me. So far, Bushnell is Super in my book.Excellent
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after reading about bushnell's customer service i don't think i will be buying one
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i have a 4200, and its a great scope, i spent two weeks comparing the 4200 the conquest and the monarch to each other, to close to call. the conquest i thought was a hair better towards last light, and i appreciated the 4" of eye relief. the 4200 has rain guard though. i would buy a conquest myself.
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i have been doing alot of research. just about everyone says nothing but good about the conquest
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in my book the biggest negative i can come up with for the conquest is its price, but a good scope wont be had for free either.
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Originally posted by dale.l dale.l wrote:

how thick are the center hair on the #4 on the zeiss conquest are they visable in low light and still shoot tight groups
are the center hairs on the #4 the same thikness as the plex 
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Zeiss service is very good.

 
Check around and ask how good Bushnell service is.
 
 The #4 reticle in the Conquest is very thick, the regular dark plex is very good for me. 
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 I don't own a 4200.but I do own a Zeiss & a elite 6500[very similar to the 4200]Hands down, the Zeiss is a better scope at least to my 63year old eyes.I purchased the 6500 over the 4200 as I wanted the extra range of the 2.5-16 for my 22lr rifle!I love shooting .22lr out at 250yrds,makes me feel like a kid again.
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Originally posted by Roy Finn Roy Finn wrote:

It would be a tough call for me as well. The Zeiss has a little bit more eye relief and some more reticle choices. The Bushnell might be a little tougher but I'm not certain how much more so. Optically, they are close.



Ditto what Roy said.  I have both and I find the Zeiss glass ever so slightly better, but the rainguard really, really works great.  Tough call from here.
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I agree with the above also, I too have both and NO REGRETS buying either one.......
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I just got my 4200 2.5-10x40 in today and found the eye relief to be over an inch less than the conquest so I pick the conquest.
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Originally posted by pyro6999 pyro6999 wrote:

i have a 4200, and its a great scope, i spent two weeks comparing the 4200 the conquest and the monarch to each other, to close to call. the conquest i thought was a hair better towards last light, and i appreciated the 4" of eye relief. the 4200 has rain guard though. i would buy a conquest myself.
 
I agree.
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both great scopes
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Obviously both scopes are great.  I own one 4200 and no Conquests.  The 4200 is great and have had not head bumps on a hard kicker.  But, my pet peeve, is as always, try the scopes out for yourself before buying off of the internet.  That is nice thing about it all.  Go to the local warehouse store, spend a lot of time inside and out with both scopes, preferably mounted on a rifle the same as yours, if not, something close, preferably try it at low light, check each for resolution, eye relief, the turrets, etc and then order it from SWFA at a deal.  You may find one thing or an other that definately seals the deal for one scope or the other.  Maybe not.  But, at least you will have had each scope in hand.  Another way is to find shooting friends with each scope and shoot their rifles.  Either way, try to get some hands on experience.  These guys know what they are talking about, now supplement it with some hands on experience.  Would you buy a car just based on what somebody has told you?
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I live in Tucson Arizona, a city of 500,000 and I was not able to see a 4200 scope. I heard nothing but good about the 4200 so I ordered one over the internet. I like the scope and plan to keep it but if I had seen in the store I might  not have purchased it. I got the 4200 because of so much good said about it on this forum. When I found the eye relief on the short side I posted it on this forum so that someone like me thinking of buying this scope would know one guy thought the scope could use more eye relief in case he could not examine one. I was never trying to say the 4200 was not a first class scope or that it would leave the shooter with a head full of cuts. I also got two conquest scopes based mostly on good reports on this forum and I sure like them. None of these scopes are on my rifles yet but I am confident they will work out because the people on here really know their scopes and I can learn from guys like you. 
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