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This is my first post.  I've been lurking and reading on this forum for about a year and just want to first say how impressed I am with the knowledge shared here.   Great forum!
 
Now to my question.  I'm looking to purchase a Conquest later this year.  I'm looking at the 3x9x40 or the 3.5x10x44.  I've looked at both of these scopes side by side and I have a question regarding the reticles.  At each of the few places where I've looked at these two scopes side by side, the thin lines on the 3x9x40 reticle are much shorter (heavy lines closer together) than they are on the 3.5x10x44 even though both are listed as the #20/Z-plex.  It appears that on the 3.5x10x44 the thin lines are almost twice as long.  Is the Z-plex and #20 the same reticle?  Or is the Z-plex a special reticle only offered on the 3x9x40?  Guess that was two question...
 
I like the looks and the size of the 3.5x10x44 as it a little more compact, but find it hard to justify the add'l cost as I can't imagine there being much difference in performance for my intended use.  Any comments comparing the two would be appreciated.
 
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if you are hunting deer in lowlight - the 3-9x40 will do just fine - may i recommend the #4 reticle? if you haven't tried one on a hunt, you would love it.
 
good luck.
 
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Thats a good question I've noticed also and really can't answer. I happen to prefer the more compact 3.5x10x44 myself and the reticle is part of that choice. Course the added extra top end power and the 4mm larger objective for less than an oz of extra weight are another part. I think either scope will serve you well and the reticle in either case will stand out good in lower light. The #4 is another great option as Jon has pointed out. To be honest their probably isn't a $100 worth of difference between the two......but for me there is......

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What kind of hunting is #4 best suited for?
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#4 is wonderful for hunting whitetail deer in lowlight conditions.
 
the thicker 3,6, and 9 O'Clock positions are easy to see and the top is open for a
quick target aquisition.  After hunting w/ my first #4, i won't buy a good scope w/out one.
 
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Thanks for the feedback guys.
 
Hunting whitetail deer in lowlight with is exactly what I'm looking for in this scope.  This scope will sit on top of a Savage 10ML-II muzzleloader and shots will likely be 250 yds or less.  I'm also considering a #4 but never seem to find one to look at.  If I could get a 3.5x10x44 for only $25 more than a 3x9x40 I'd jump on it...unless of course the 3x9x40 is WAY over-priced Wink
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Just wondering why Leupold calls it German #4?
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Originally posted by CC CC wrote:

Thanks for the feedback guys.


Hunting whitetail deer in lowlight with is exactly what I'm looking for in this scope. This scope will sit on top of a Savage 10ML-II muzzleloader and shots will likely be 250 yds or less. I'm also considering a #4 but never seem to find one to look at. If I could get a 3.5x10x44 for only $25 more than a 3x9x40 I'd jump on it...unless of course the 3x9x40 is WAY over-priced Wink


Neat I use a 3.5x10x44 conquest on a savage 10ml for deer myself. Enjoy your rig.......

I believe the 4a is originally a low light european reticle. The #4 is a good reticle for quick target acquisition and good low light prominence.

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Focus,
 
Thats cool that you are a fellow Savage ML user.  It's by far the most versatile and powerful muzzleloader I've ever used.  Several guys on one of the muzzleloading forums I belong to swear by the 3.5x10x44 / 10ML-II combo.
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Believe me....its a good combo, like mine a lot.

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I have a very old Carl Zeiss jena from the 1920s era on a marlin 39 that has the German #1 reticle. This is my favorite reticle of all. It is like a #4 but it has a point to the post that is where you put the squirrel. I do not know of any scopes that come with it stock anymore but it can be special ordered for a price. This is a very good shooting rig.
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You are correct, the plex in the 3-9 and 3.5-10 are different, I looked at both this week.  I like the 3.5-10 plex better myself, it may be my favorite reticle in any scope.
 
 
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I have an early german scope on a 22 with the #1 reticle, like you I like the pointed top of the post for focusing the aimpoint.

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