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Which is better for hunting at night ?
zeiis conquest is 200 $ more expensive , is it worth or not ?

Of course we're talking about the same objetive ( 56 mm) and the same power (8x)
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No VX3 made with a 56mm objective unless you want a VX-3L with the Light Optimization profile that looks goofy.

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You are being kind when you say it looks goofy.
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Ok,,,I had to re-read the post so it is going to be used at night.  I was at first thinking "why would you want to lug around a 56mm objective"  but ok for night hunting.
 
Personally,  I love the Conquest scopes I think they offer great performance for their price range.  I have never compared a 56mm objective model but I will say in a standard 40mm objective the Zeiss has the Leupold beat in terms of light gathering.
 
Again personal preference but I don't like the cresent moon shaped lens of the Leupold but that is a personal thing.  Leupold still makes a fine hunting scope, and I would have no problem putting one on a rifle.  If I could only afford the Leupold, then no doubt I'd buy it and still have a nice scope. BUT, if I could afford to spend the extra money on the Zeiss then definitly the Zeiss.
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For the same price of a 3.5-10x50 Leupold VX3 you can get a Meopta Meostar 3-10x50 that is supposed to have as good or better brightness, clarity, etc. as the Conquest scopes (since they make Conquest lenses) but people say not so good eye relief.
 
Would probably be great if you don't have a recoil monster of a rifle and you can get a Meopta with illuminated reticle, but not a Conquest. 
 
It's nice all Meopta stuff is actually made by Meopta as well.  It seems like most companies are not that way.
 
Can you get the Trijicon Accupoint 2.5-10x56 over there in Spain?
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Originally posted by Acenturian Acenturian wrote:

I have never compared a 56mm objective model but I will say in a standard 40mm objective the Zeiss has the Leupold beat in terms of light gathering.
 
I didn't know Zeiss made a 40mm objective in the Conquest line but when a Zeiss Conquest and a Leupold VX-3 (not a VX-III or VARI X-III) are put side by side they are pretty darn close in clarity, brightness and resolution. 
 
A 56mm vs a 50 is probably brighter still.  I don't care for that half-moon look either but it does allow for a large objective to get closer to the barrel as long as the stock configuration allows it.
 
Another + for Leupold is the will swap reticles for you.  Zeiss however has vey good contrasting reticles which is a + in the dark.  Zeiss also (IMO) has better eye relief thru the whole zoom range.
 
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The VX-3 supposedly has a new coating for low light, but coatings are limited by the quality of glass they are on. Go for the Ziess, I have yet to own a Luepy that was a strong low light performer.
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The new VX3 is as good as the Conquest.Leupold has always been weak on low light but the new VX3 has better coatings on the lens.
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I have to humbley disagree, better coating on fair quality glass may make them better, but it's still not great glass.  You can put a new paint job on an old truck, but it's still an old truck.....

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Originally posted by fireroad fireroad wrote:

I have to humbley disagree, better coating on fair quality glass may make them better, but it's still not great glass.  You can put a new paint job on an old truck, but it's still an old truck.....

 
It was hard for me to tell them apart in low light, Zeiss colors seem to be a tad cooler where Leupolds is a tad warmer.  In the reticle department for low light, definetly a Zeiss.
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Any more input from members that own both?  I own a Zeiss Conquest so this comparison to the new VX3 has some meaning for me.  I'm wondering if Leupold has finally installed some glass in their VX3s equal to the Zeiss Conquest line of scopes. 
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I don't own both, but friends do and I have compared both in the field. The VX3 does not have upgraded glass, just upgraded coating and erector. Like I have said before, good coating can improve good glass performance, but they don't magically make good glass great glass. Coating aside, Zeiss still has better quality glass.
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Originally posted by PaulD PaulD wrote:

Any more input from members that own both?  I own a Zeiss Conquest so this comparison to the new VX3 has some meaning for me.  I'm wondering if Leupold has finally installed some glass in their VX3s equal to the Zeiss Conquest line of scopes. 
 
I own both but don't actually see a big difference between the two.  In some conditions the Conquest has noticeably better optics, darker laser etched reticle etc.  THe VX3's are lighter, smaller, very durable and look good.  VX3's are often cheaper than the Conquest alternative.  I like mine equal.....no favorite child.Wink
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Originally posted by Horsemany Horsemany wrote:

I like mine equal.....no favorite child.Wink
 
Pretty much sums it up for me as well...
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Thanks for the posts.  I'll probably put one toe in the water with a VX-3 4.5-14 LR.
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I have used both in twilight conditions, a 3-9x40mm Zeiss, and 2 VX-3s, a 2.5-8x36mm and a 3.5-10x40mm.   Since they were not mine, I did not tweak them at all, but I am just glad the VX-3's belonged to someone else; it was no contest as to which one I would buy, the Conquest.
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new leos have new glass same as the vl or extended twilight , leo has far better turret system than the zeiss and more choice of reticle. have and use both,--- leo is at least as good as a conquest (its all subjective) conquest has shorter and sometimes more difficult mounting distance from turret to rear, and  on some models the ocular wobbles. conquest offers no ill. reticle option which are a great aid in lower light conditions.
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