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I have Talley 30mm ring there too tall ran out of room on my scope, thinking of going with
Leopold flat base and medium 30mm rings to get it down some ?
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Originally posted by Turkey Agent Turkey Agent wrote:

I have Talley 30mm ring there too tall ran out of room on my scope, thinking of going with
Leopold flat base and medium 30mm rings to get it down some ?

Please explain...

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Sorry I'm out of room for up and down adjustment
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I'd call Talley directly and ask them. I'm wondering if medium rings would work, if you like the Talley ring.  

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Your assessment does not make sense, to me.  If your scope center-line height is the "recommended" 1.5 in above bore, using a .308 with 168gr bullet at 2800 fps, at 300 yards drop is 4.2MOA, at 500 yards, 10.2MOA and at 1000 33.3MOA.  Same gun/bullet/velocity with sight height above bore 2.5 inches drop at 300 is 3.5MOA, 500 9.4MOA, 1000 32.4MOA, so approximately 1MOA difference (and to my way of thinking, to the good).  Just doesn't track...



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What rifle is it? Which Talley rings are you using? Generally, when you run out of elevation adjustment to get zeroed, it's because your front ring's centerline height is a little higher than the rear. This could be caused by several things. If your rifle is one where the rear of the receiver steps down relative to the front but screw hole spacing is the same front and back, you could have installed the taller rear mount on front instead of back.
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Savage 110 300 win
 
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You may be on to somthing here's a better pic

 
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Good looking rifle..
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Originally posted by Turkey Agent Turkey Agent wrote:

You may be on to somthing here's a better pic

 


Yep, you definitely have your front and rear mounts reversed. The one with the longer base goes in front.
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THAT will make a difference.
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Thanks going to try it!

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Wont work the front reciver is round and the back if flat. going to have to backup and puntHead Banger

Open for any suggestions.
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Originally posted by Turkey Agent Turkey Agent wrote:

Wont work the front reciver is round and the back if flat.


Yes, sir; that's correct. If the bottoms of your mounts aren't contoured accordingly, then you must either have the wrong mounts, they're defective, Talley has made some design changes, or ?...

Every Savage I've ever seen equipped with Talley LW mounts had the mount with the wider base on front.


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On my browning abolt the long mount is on the back. but its not a savage.


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They have to be the wrong mounts then well at lest I'm making some head way ok if it was your
scope what mounts and rings would you go with?
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I'm a fan of the Talley LWs that you have. I personally don't like any mount that protrudes over the ejection port, though...unless of course it's a 1-pc base.

Maybe your particular Savage model requires LW mounts that are reversed like you had them; I don't know. That's just the first time I've seen them oriented like that, with the wider base in rear. I would call Talley and talk to Gary Turner. He's a nice guy; very helpful.

It's also possible that the rear of your receiver could be out of spec, with the surface your rear mount sits on too low relative to the front. That would angle the centerline axis of your scope upward, making it difficult to impossible to zero your rifle. If that's the case, the mounts aren't at fault, and you will have to shim your rear base.

Please keep us posted on what you find out.
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Ok tried weaver base mounts and base same thing.Front of scope has to come up I tried coke can shim forget that. Who makes a base ring combo that will adjust that out price doesn't matter.
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Originally posted by Turkey Agent Turkey Agent wrote:

Front of scope has to come up.



From reading this post. I thought you were running out of elevation adjustment and that your POI was low. If this is the case it is not the front of the scope that needs to come up, but the rear of the scope that needs to come up. So where are your groups impacting the target? Are they lower or higher than the POA?
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Ok maybe I'm confused heres what I have will not bore sight shot it at 25 yards. Hitting about 6'' high will not adjust down looking thru the scope the cross hairs will move down. if I'm thinking about this right cross hairs go down brings the POA up? looking thru the scope that is.Higher
than the POA is the way its shooting if im thinking right, sorry if I have confused everybody.
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That looks like the wrong mount to me.
Have you called Talley yet?
 
Personally, I do not use Talley, but I have seen them enough to know they make a quality product. Call them up.
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Once you get this all figured out, you will love that scope, I had the same a few years ago, great low light, great image quality.

Call Talley, they will square you away.
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Talley Mfg:  803-854-5700. Ask for Gary.

I wouldn't be surprised if you have the wrong mounts.

If Talley can't resolve your issue, there's another option that's guaranteed to fix the problem. Get the Leupold "Dual Dovetail" or Burris "Double Dovetail" bases, and use Burris Signature "Double Dovetail" rings (will fit either the Leupold or Burris bases).
The "Signature" rings use the plastic floating inserts. That way, not only does it grip the scope well without marring the tube, and it self-centers, you have the option of using offset inserts that allow you to raise or lower the center line in one ring relative to the other and adjust scope angle, the same as if you were shimming the bases.
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Don't give up on the Talley's, definitely give Gary a call.
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