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As stated in other post I am looking at a swaro z6 2.5-15x56 or maybe the 44mm objective. If I decide not to spend the extra cash for the IR. what is the best ret for low/no light hunting conditions?
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For that scope, probably the 4a or 7a, IMHO the 4 is better but it's not available for z6 scopes beyond 2-12x50.

Watch the sample list:

http://www.samplelist.com/Riflescopes-C3391.aspx#Swarovski
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Thanks for the info. Ill keep a eye on the samplelist.
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I looked on swfa website and its showing the 4a available on the scope above, is that a mis-print or something? How much thicker are the outer bars on the 4 or 7 vs the plex reticle? Also is the brh a bad choice for low light conditions?
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The scope you asking about, it does come in the 4a..... (the #4 which I like better doesn't, it's slightly bolder). The 4a and 7a are identical except the 7a has the 4th outer post (12 o'clock high). The plex reticle is actually thin in comparison. The BRH is a nice reticle, some guys on this site like it and will probably chime in. You asked about a low light/no light reticle, I think the BRH might be a little busy but that's just me.
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Oh ok gotcha, i was kinda worried about the brh being busy in low light wasnt sure though. Kickboxer and some others have chimed in on another question I have and that is it worth going with the 56mm obj. Theres a 44mm on the sample list that seems to be priced right, it has the IR but its the brh ret. Would you consider that one or go with the 56mm non IR instead?
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It's like a tool for the right situation, a 56mm is going to gather more light. If that's all you're going to do is low/no light hunting it might be a better choice, remember it is a much larger bell than a 44mm. IMHO a 44mm is going to be a better choice for all around hunting.
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Yeah I understand what your saying, this is a tough decision. I currently use a leupold vxlll 3.5-10x50mm and I am wanting to upgrade to a scope that provides top end low light clarity if that makes sense. However as I have learned just increasing the obj size doesnt mean better clarity. I know that quality glass plays a factor here too. Most of my shots will be in under 200yds, in your opinion do you think the 44mm will meet my needs?
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If most of your shots are under 200 yards i would get the 1.7-10x or 2-12x. It would be a little more compact
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Agreed with the above

Let me throw out another alternative to the Swarovski
Leica just came out with the 3-12x50 with illuminated reticle that is well executed.
Just the center dot illuminates.
Glass that is right there with Swaro, etc..

A little less money too.

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Ok thanks for the input, I understand the more compact idea and if this was strictly a "brush gun" I woul prolly go that route. But where I hunt I have the opp to make roughly 400 yd shots. Prolly never will but the chance is there. Plus I like the idea of the bigger obj for some reason, even though you arent gaining that much more light that you can use in low light conditions.
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Originally posted by sdurha01 But where I hunt I have the opp to make roughly 400 yd shots. Prolly never will but the chance is there. <br>[/QUOTE sdurha01 But where I hunt I have the opp to make roughly 400 yd shots. Prolly never will but the chance is there.
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There are a number of people here who shoot targets at 1000yds with 10x. Also 10x at 400yds is similar to no magn



There are a number of people here who shoot targets at 1000yds with 10x. Also 10x at 400yds is similar to no magnification at 40yds. Plus if you are thinking about the scope you currently have and would like more magnification that is probably not a fair comparison. Better glass will always trump more magnification with lesser glass. And the Z6 has very good glass.
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56mm objective is going to make a good cheek weld with a typical hunting stock impossible, you will have to mount it to high.  Just one other thing to consider.  50mm is pushing it with a typical hunting stock IMO, but I like to keep scopes very low. 
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Yea the height issue with the 56mm is a concern as well for me, I was told by a friend that I shouldnt have a problem with it but Im really not sure on that one.
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This is a 1.7-10x42.  You can see how low I was able to get it.  A 56mm would have to be mounted much higher. 

Another thing to be aware of is the huge eye piece these things have.  I purposefully bought a browning for my scope (yes I bought the scope first Big Grin) which only has a 60 degree bolt lift.  Where a Remington and Wichester and savage have a much higher bolt lift I think 100ish degree.  On those rifles many times you will need to mount the scope on higher rings to get bolt clearence so it may not matter if you buy a 56 as you may have to have it that high anyway.

Lots of things to consider with scopes to get the perfect fit for your needs.  I would check on those things and make sure things will fit okay before you purchase. 

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I have a Z6 1.7-10X42 on a Stiller Predator action (90-deg bolt lift like Rem) using medium rings and it clears... just barely.


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Originally posted by supertool73 supertool73 wrote:

If most of your shots are under 200 yards i would get the 1.7-10x or 2-12x. It would be a little more compact

Amen brother.   
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Originally posted by JGRaider JGRaider wrote:

Originally posted by supertool73 supertool73 wrote:

If most of your shots are under 200 yards i would get the 1.7-10x or 2-12x. It would be a little more compact

Amen brother.   


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