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ok just got an xotic scope from the samplelist in a trade, I dropped the scope alone(not attached to anything) at a height of only about 2 feet..... it now has a BIG dent on the side of the threaded area of the objective lense. This scope SUCKS!

Trying to get a hold of swfa so I can get it fixed and then sell the damn thing.




Just a heads up to everyone.
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Two foot drop = BIG dent. what a POS.
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If ever there was a case for thowing the BS flag.......this is it.




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First, let me say the XOTIC scope is not a piece of junk.  This guy has been nothing but a trouble maker with ulterior motives.....read his other post.  His mission since registering on our talk group has been to discredit SWFA, Super Sniper and XOTIC.  Most of you know that this is our forum and we operate RifleScopes.com and we are the only source for the XOTIC scopes and we own the Super Sniper line of scopes.

 

We tolerate a lot of post and comments that probably should be deleted or edited for our benefit but we don't and that is one of the reasons why the OT has become such a good place to hang out.  We've only ever banned one user in our history and now we have banned two.

 

This particular guy baited us with a trade and I called it right when he propositioned us and told our warehouse manager in charge of trades exactly what he planned to do.  I contemplated just turning him down immediately, then again when his scope trade arrived in a lot worse condition than he described.  But I gave him the benefit of doubt and proceeded and told David (warehouse manager) that I bet this comes back to haunt us......didn't take long.

 

I don't know who this guy is or what his motivation is but it is more than obvious to all.

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Voldermortist?? what does that means "Lord of Evil" or "Dark Lord". Legend has
it that Voldermortist once tried to destroy Merlin before the time of ...  Need we say more??

 

 

 

 


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Strange, I got a different defintion when I Googled it.

 

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=voldermortist

 

1. Voldermortist-

Faggy goth attention whore with guns.
<Voldermortist> KILL KITTENS LOOK AT ME IM VIOLENT AND DARK
 
2. Voldermortist-
An extremely angry young man infatuated with Gothic culture. One with latent homosexual desires. The Ghey.
Voldermortist is raging homo
 
3. Voldermortist-
A flaming homo who likes cocktails
Voldermortist squeeled like a girl
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 I LIKE YOURS BETTER!!! 

 

 

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I will definitely take SWFA's word for it. They have been nothing but good to me, including a defect / exchange issue last year. I give them ALL my optics business. Given the turnover rate in my gun safe, its a lot of $$.
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He uses the same user name, e-mail, address in Houston, etc. for his registration on AR15.com and has been the topic of discussion in the moderator forum a few times.

 

Here are a few comments from AR15.com members about him in one of the Team Forums.

 

"Man is this guy jealous or what???? maybe just a straight up ***hole, and needs the attention

 

"What's wrong, Voldermortist? Jealous that someone else is getting attention?"

 

"i wonder if this one is mentally challenged or something, maybe he was sexually abused when he was younger???"

"im curious to know his intentions"

 

"Voldermortist is jealous he wasn't born a woman and he ain't a man."

 

"I say you are the one full of BS."

 

"I've never met Voldermortist either, but from this thread, I can pretty safely conclude he isn't the best Texas has to offer. Pickin' a fight with a woman just ain't very manly."

 

*UCK YOU Voldermortist, you vile POS!

 

Do often attack people for no reason?
Does this type of crap make you feel like a man?

See this is why I will never be able to go to a big meet of ARFCOM members, I will end up in **cking jail for what I would like to do to some idiots.

 

+1 imagine this guy would be to chicken shi* to show up to one, i imagine that would be a fun to see what happens

 

This is what happens when junior high kids have too much time on their hands

 

But hey it's a free country and we have a Bill of Rights that protects the opinions of assclowns like you.

Time to go Volderpolesmoker, I say you take the resignation method, since you have no credibility here anymore.

Tagged for the "After the Banning" party

 

Be smart, leave and never return. You'll never live this one down man. You don't deserve to be on here no matter what

 

Wow...... You take pathetic to a whole new level.

 

Voldermoist, you are scum.

 

If you haven't done so already Volder, please get a vasectomy. Do it for yourself, for us, and for the future. Please.

you have made yourself look like a complete fool.. and are no longer welcomed here..

Pure frickin scum.

More than enough of you you Tard Broke back lonly Boy .

 

Voldermortist The Attention-Whore

If you dislike the site or its owners or policies so much, why torture yourself by posting here?

sometimes its best to just shut the **ck up, and keep you dumbass comments to yourself.

This vile POS should should be expelled from our ranks in the quickest fashion Edsr can manage.


Some people just need a beating… some people need several.

Another puss* that should be banned.

 

We've banned people who were less offensive and more likable than Moldydork before

 

 

This is just a few of the quotes.  There are literally hundreds and hundreds.  I am surprised that Ed Sr. has not banned him yet.



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Sorry about this pee stick, Chris.

Good for you for bouncing his idiotic ass!!!!!

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I just hate to think about all the potential customers who were turned off of SWFA's products ie the Super Sniper and XOTIC line of scopes by this guy.  They all could have gotten good deals and great equipment. 

 

A big B.S. claim to that report on the dented housing on the XOTIC.  I've seen Leupolds, and Unertl's have this happen, but it took dropping something like a 15 pound bowling ball on it to do it.  A drop from two feet wouldn't dent the housing like he's describing on a BSA.  Why would anyone buy a scope and purposely drop the thing anyways.  Someone like Chris ,Brady and M. Miller could do such things because they are authority on scopes and field use of scopes, but this guy is, well I don't know what he does.



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Another post to let Chris know he's bashing you over at SniperHide already.

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I really hate that, I was going to buy that scope as soon as I got some more money from the old lady's purse. Oh well, I'm a patient man and I am sure a better deal will come along. Stop bidding on a Nikon 4-16 X 50 Tactical tonight at $680.00. I guess the guy who paid $721.00 for it will drop test it also. By the way that is the stupidest stunt I heard of, droping a fine instrutment to prove you are a asshole.

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Even if the scope was dented, and it still proved repeatable it would still be one big plus for Xotic. This thread has been better than Jerry Springer.
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You know it's a funny thing.  I dropped a 50 cal LAR Grizzly from about waist high with an xotic mounted on it.

Laws of nature being what they are, the darn thing flipped and hit scope first on what we Texans call Kalichi.  Solid limestone about as hard as concrete.   I'm still shooting that undamaged, undented scope to this day.  Repeatability is unchanged, although it's been dragged through more foul smelling stuff than toilet paper and it looks like it.  A dent from a 2 foot drop..............................  naawwwwwww 

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Did you guys see the pictures he posted of the scope?  If he thinks his camera was in focus I'm sure the next post we're going to get is how the optics on the XOTIC suck because when he looks through everything is blurry :) 

 

What a .

 

Hey Chris, can I send all my scopes back because after I mounted them they've got little marks where they attached to the scope rings?  And one of my lenses got scratched after I used a towel covered in sand to clean it.  I thought you said these scopes were tough and came with a money back guarantee?

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You could not tell anything from the pictures he posted on SnipersHide.com.  We got the scope back today from him.  He initially traded us a B&L 10x Tactical that he described as "mint"  Here is a link to how he described it when he was trying to sell it on SnipersHide.com

http://www.snipershide.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic; f=21;t=003474#000000

 

The B&L he traded us not only has severe ring marks, they are so severe that they dented the tube in two place.  If that is not bad enough the scope is full of internal debris.  Its hard to photograph internal debris and this is the first time I've had a scope bad enough that the camera  would focus on about half of them.  We should have refused his trade based on an inaccurate and deceptive description but I had a collector that wanted it knowing what condition it was in.  Its now going back to Volder.  I refuse to buy, sell or trade with someone like him and have black balled him in our computer system.

 

Here are some pics of his "mint" B&L trade-in.

     

pics of his "mint" B&L trade-in.

     

 

 

 

Here are some pics of his "severely" dented XOTIC.

     

     

     

 

Strange thing is, there's two dents in different locations.  They are both so minor that they were hard to photograph.  There was also some tool markings on one of them.

 

Its almost like someone was bragging about how tough their new scope was and in an attempt to impress friends, took the scope and banged the edge of the objective on something hard.............two times.



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I say the next thing that gets "dropped" is you, Voldermortist!!

                                                                            

Preferably, from a higher place than 2 feet too....... 

 

 

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Volder...How's things going over at Sniper's Hide??

HMMMMM??..........Not so good, huh??

 

  

 

 

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Anyone got a link to the snipershide discussion?
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Originally posted by SC-Texas SC-Texas wrote:

Anyone got a link to the snipershide discussion?

 

http://www.snipershide.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic; f=19;t=003958

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Cheaptrick beat me to it
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