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I am seriously considering buying the new XOTIC scope,  I still however have a few doubts, Everything I have read regarding the scope has all been positive but I am still not quite convinced.  Does anyone know where I can find reviews on the scope?, preferably by a magazine or some other expert?  The scope is destined for a rem 700 PSS in .300RUM, Also, what Leu MARK 4 rings would I need to accomodate the objective which I believe is 56mm. 

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My friend and I just bought two XOTIC scopes.

 

They are mounted on Savage 10FP LEA 308's.

 

I absolutely love the scope.  It is very clear and bright.  The adjustments track very well and for the price the scope can't be beat. 

 

I have a 3-12X56 mm VMV Ziess, and a 2 1/2-10X56 mm S&B the XOTIC is in the same class as these two scopes.

 

We had decided to buy Leupold Mark IV long range tactical 4.5-14X50 mm scopes, but when we drove down to Red Oak, TX and compared the Leupold to the XOTIC, there was no contest the Leupold was no where nere as bright or clear, and the field of view on the XOTIC  hands down beat the Leupold. 

 

The XOTIC is in the same class as a S&B Tactical, but for a third of the price.  Plus when the scope gets its deserved recognition, the price will undoubtedly go up, because the scopes are being interduced at prices less than what it cost to produce them.

 

If you did have any doubts of the scope, it has a 30 day no questions asked money back guarantee.

 

P.S.   SWFA's customer service is great, they have already proven to me there drive to stand behind there products, and said that no matter what happened in the future to the company, because we were skeptical, they would personally back these scopes.

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Thanks for the info, your post script covered one of my biggest doubts, seeing as how the company is new, but if SWFA will stand behind these scopes and the warranty even if for some reason the XOTIC company were to dissolve,  I guess I can't ask for any more than that.  By the way, what scope rings did you choose? I have Mark 4 rings and IOR one piece tactical bases on my other rifles,  Will medium rings be enough to clear the objective from a heavy barrel?  Any suggestions?
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Any time.

 

Our's has Mark IV one piece base and IOR high tactical rings.

 

I would be willing to bet that you will need the high rings.  It is a 56 mm objective.

 

To make sure I would call there customer service number and they will tell you exactly what you need.

 

I hope you enjoy your scope as much as we have.

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Hi
I'm new here and also just purchased an XOTIC.
Has anyone mounted one of these on a Smith Mount for an M1A? If yes, What rings did you use? I would preer QD's if possible
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http://www.snipershide.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=forum;f=19

 

Theres a guy on this site name Jeff in Texas that just got his hands on one of the XOTIC's, and seems very impressed. Scroll down through the optics forum and look for the info.

Jeff's a very squared away dude and he likes the scope. That tells me a lot.

 

Hope this helps. There is some more info on the second page of the optics forum too.

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doc76521 from Snipers hide did a very good evaluation and test of the XOTIC. Here's what he had to say.

 

http://www.snipershide.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic; f=19;t=002466

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I also did a quick review of the scope on the optics thread of AR15.com.  SWFA then came in and posted a more

thorough review done by someone else.  There were also some reviews of the prototype on this forum, but with the crash they may have been lost.

 

Won't repeat my review here, but will tell you that I really like this scope.  It is definitely more rugged, brighter, and turrets have a better feel than my Leupold M-1.

 

One word of warning though - this is a large and heavy scope.  Mine's mounted on an AR30 with a bipod.  Rifle already weighs 14+ pounds and really works best when shot off bipod, so extra weight of scope really wasn't a consideration for me.  Might be for others.

 

As far as rings go, I'm using Badger Ordinance medium high rings to mount to my AR30.  These work perfectly and put the scope right where it needs to be.  Can't say how this combo will work on other rifles.

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Once again, thanks for all the info guys, now I just need to buy one, I guess I'll go with the Leu Mark 4 high rings.  Weight is not an issue on this gun, It is a Rem 700 pss chambered in 300 remington Ultra mag and kicks like a sow, in fact, the gun is at Mag-na-port right now getting a Mag-na-brake installed.  Also, I took off the recoil pad and ballisted the HS-precision stock with 1.5 lbs of  Lead/tin alloy.  The gun has never been shot off of anything but the ol' harris bipod, and probably never will be.  The extra weight of this particular scope will probably just help me squeeze off the rounds a little better without flinching, and tighten up my groups. 
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Ordered the XOTIC and another Super sniper today,  For anyone else considering an XOTIC I'll let you know what I think when it arrives.  I don't have a great expertise on optics but I have a lot of experience in the field, and I'll post my opinion once I get a chance to try it out, from what you guys told me it should be great. 

 

Thanks again for everyone who helped me out in the forum, I can rest easy spending that amount of money knowing that others with real world experience have tried out the product, and I anxiously await its arrival.

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Good luck to you!!

Look forward to your review.

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Got my XOTIC today, only one problem, the two sets of Leu mark 4 rings I ordered are on backorder so I am not sure when I will have the scope mounted.  Despite this slight annoyance, I am extremely impressed with the image quality obtained with this scope.   The nicest scope I have to compare it to is a Leu Vari-x III 40mm Long Range and I also have a SS10x42M.  I can easily say the the brightness and clarity substantially exceeds that of these two scopes.   The windage and elev. knobs are as promised as well.  The clicks are clearly felt and audible.  The parallax adjustment seems to be spot on as far as yardage.  Downsides to some, myself excluded, might be the weight, which is over 2 lbs, and the overall mass of the scope, (this thing is huge!),  makes my vari-x III look like a .22LR scope.  I like the size and weight of the scope.  I believe it is intended for large long range rifles where weight and size are less of an issue.  In my opinion it is well suited for bigger guns, such as .50's and magnums,  like my PSS.  Once I get the scope rings I will mount it and post more of my thoughts on the scope.  My first impressions can be summed up by saying that the scope is as advertised, clear, crisp in adjustment, and seemingly very sturdy and durable, though the latter will have to be tested over time.  I also appreciate the fact that SWFA sent me a free mil-dot master and sunshade with the scope,  and though I never saw it advertised,  they gave me free UPS ground shipping.  Hopefully the scope will live up to both its name, and its advertising claims.     

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Sounds like you got a really good deal on that XOTIC scope. Looking forward to your comments once you get the scope mounted and have had a chance to try it out. I may have to get one of them for a long range rifle I am going to get built on a Remington action.
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        Got the scope mounted this past weekend.  The Mark 4 rings and IOR tactical 1 piece 700LA base elevated the scope sufficiently above the barrel, (about .25").  After loading some 178 gr. A-Max's I took the gun and scope out for a test ride.  My first impression at 100 yds was a very favorable one.  The scope was crisp and the parallax adjustment, set to 100 yds, seemed to be right on.  I did not boresight the gun and the first shot revealed that I was about 4.5" high and 3" right.  I made the proper adjustments on the scope and shot a 3 shot group.  The generous eye relief of the scope , added to my newly acquired muzzle brake for the gun, helped me feel confident that the gun wasn't gonna take a bite out of my forehead (anybody who has ever shot a RUM can vouch for the fact that this isn't a rarity with these calibers).  The scope, steel rings, and steel base, added a very substantial amount of weight to the gun, but this was to be expected.  The whole package seemed to work well though, the scope is big but it is on a big gun. 

         So far I am very impressed with the scope.  The scope excels in low light conditions, which I assume is in part due to the 56mm obj.  On 16x in 65 deg. weather no mirages were evident when looking into the distance (I imagine it might be a problem on hot days).  I was at home with the scope set on 10x as the reticle gets very large when zoomed up to 16x.  I shot a few more groups whose average was about 1".  My cousin and I then proceeded to find anything that would hold water and took turns shooting, and blowing them up.  The MVP of this exercise was a 1 gal. paint can capped tightly, set lid down.  The can, minus the lid probably reached the 40' mark in the air after being shot.  Anyway, back to the scope....  The one thing I did notice, which I also read in one of the reviews above, was that the windage knob felt a little sloppier than was to be expected.  This was not the case however with the elev. knob.  I wouldn't go so far as to say the windage knob was bad, but it wasn't great by any means.  Had it been the elev. knob showing this slop I would most likely be sending the scope back, but I rarely calculate windage, I usually just give a few clicks for downrange shots, so the knob is well enough suited for my uses. 

 

             I wasn't able to really use the scope past a 100 yds so I imagine within the next week or so when I get a chance I'll take it back out and try some out to 300 or 400 yds.  Then I'll give my further opinion.  The only other notable thing I have to add is that the Butler creek obj. and eyepiece covers I purchased didn't fit nearly as well as the ones I have for my SS and Leupold's.  The objective cover inparticularly doesn't seem to seat well.  I understand that this is partly due to the large size but I am not really happy with it.  It doesn't want to sit straight and I have to pick the gun up and use my whole palm to get it to shut properly.  This, of course though is no fault of the scope. I will most likely make a couple more posts of my experiences with the scope and I've been meaning to get some pics.  With this scope, the rifle should prove to be a long-range tack driver.    

 

 

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So, are there any more reviews of XOTIC's?

It seems to have fallen off the map

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"So, are there any more reviews of XOTIC's?"

 

Jess, I ordered an XOTIC USS this week, I will have it Monday and plan to post my own amateur review for it in the coming weeks when I get time off work to play with it. I have heard nothing but fantastic things from the reviews throught the web on it so I am excited to try it out.

 

<waves> Hello opticstalk forums, I am the new guy here. I am hoping to help in any small way that I can. Lots of good info and opinions on here.

 

Cheers,

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Welcome to the forum Rheinhardt. Looking forward to your review of the new XOTIC scope.
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I bought an XOTIC about 6 weeks ago. It is mounted on a Rem 700 Sendero 338 RUM. I've taken it to the range on three separate occasions and shot out to 1000 yards, with back to back comparisons with my other rifles with Leupold Mark4 optics (8.5 x 25 x 50mm and 6.5 x 20 x 50mm - both with Premier Reticle Gen2 conversions). The XOTIC scope is excellent in all regards. I used to be a huge Mark4 fan...

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I got mine a few weeks ago also.  Took it out for a spin for the first time last week.  Took me awhile to get it on paper using 155gr Federals.  By the time I got to fine tuning it I was out of Federals, had been out there for over an hour and a half under a blazing sun, 92 degrees (heat index was in the lower 100s) and I was tired. The 123gr Lapua's were shooting about 3-4 inches high.  So it has yet to be dialed in to my liking.  But it did everything I asked it.  
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I've a few thousand rounds on mine at the moment and it
seems to be holding up nicely. Makes a nice addition to
the rifle also.


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http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v128/Hoodcounty/USS/DSC_05 23.jpg

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Well, I put one on a Savage 10FP in .308, used Warne rings

I am very pleasedwith bith the scope and the rifle, shooting well under 1 MOA

Point of aim stayed constant throughout all magnifications and the optics were very bright.

This was a good purchase.

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Measuring magnification
How to Measure magnification
How can I see how strong a magnifying glass is?

I bought this magnifying glass http://www.liangdianup.com/inventory/189901.htm and I want
to know how to test it to see how strong it is. I hear a lot of people talk about
magnifying and how strong the magnification is, but I would like to know the true
magnification of my magnifying glass. I have a few of them and some seem stronger then
others. How can I rate these? How can I pin a correct number on mine? How do the companies
that make these come up with these numbers.
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Originally posted by hellogreen hellogreen wrote:

Measuring magnification
How to Measure magnification
How can I see how strong a magnifying glass is?

I bought this magnifying glass http://www.liangdianup.com/inventory/189901.htm and I want
to know how to test it to see how strong it is. I hear a lot of people talk about
magnifying and how strong the magnification is, but I would like to know the true
magnification of my magnifying glass. I have a few of them and some seem stronger then
others. How can I rate these? How can I pin a correct number on mine? How do the companies
that make these come up with these numbers.
The long and the short of it is that it will actually depend upon your eyes, how you hold the magnifying glass in relation to the "target item", and the measured distance at which you obtain your maximum focus.  If you are getting older, the focus distance may be longer, better eyes, it may be shorter resulting in a change in the mag power rating. 
My daughter has eye problems, so I try to keep tabs on this stuff... rather than trying to make myself "self important" like I see on some other fora, try this site, one I have bookmarked.  It should answer your questions.

http://www.optiboard.com/forums/showthread.php?t=27811

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