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Has anyone seen this?  Watch the videos on it. 

http://www.gearupcenter.com/products/x-caliber-shotgun-gauge-adapter-system.html

This just seems idiotic to me.  I like the idea of multiple calibers, but calling it the ultimate survival rifle is more than a little far fetched IMO.  Accuracy is horrible, and how would you ever compensate for POI shifts from one caliber to the next.  Then it took him forever to get the spent cases out of it.  If there was a way to over come the accuracy issues I could see it as a very close range hunting rifle, but when he makes comments of using it for self defense.  Loco 
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Well there was 15minutes of my life I will never get back. And if this guy is a survival expert we are all in trouble! In addition to your comments ST, it is essentially a seven inch barrel so you are going to lose alot of your muzzle energy.  As B P Barnum once said a sucker is born every minute.
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You guys ever survive a real disaster? I have! Ammunition was scarce, I was able to scrounge 12g and .38spl, too bad I didn't have a 38 revolver! I was able to trade some ammo, it would have been much better if i had a way to use 38 and 22 ammo myself. Short range rifle? Yes, most survival shooting is at close range,
And people do hunt with pistols. This place needs more experience and less personal attacks. You guys are talking like air soft enthusiasts.
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A rash in eko, I generally am quick to welcome new members to the OT but, out of your passion or need to brow beat. you have stepped out on the wrong foot. Especially being your first post. Having been in a true diaster you might have valuable experience to offer but, it can be deemed usless if no one wants what is offered. I hope if you make a second post you will give more weight to all the positive this forum offers than to the occasional negitive.
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Yea, this is a real positive Forum. Well, Sergeant D, I hope you earned those stripes, because I did earn mine. What I was responding to was what I took as negative posts on the subject of the X Caliber system, as no one said they had any real experience with the product.   I don't either, but it looks like a good idea. What you took as offensive was meant as humor, and I don't believe the other two contributors above have much experience. They were talking smack, I speak from experience. The name Arashineko means storm cat in Japanese by the way, and wanted or not, I will continue to post here until the moderator (s) kick me off. Have a good day Sarge!
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I am just having a hard time seeing how in any survival scenario, whether it be hunting or self defense, how having a rifle that is not accurate, has no way of being consistent in its accuracy.  Is extremely difficult to load and reload would be such a great choice.  I would much rather carry multiple firearms a several calibers.  The design itself would not promote accuracy.  Rubber o rings it not a stable attachment point to breed confidence.  Also each caliber change not having its own sights would make things even worse.

I think it is a great idea, but I cannot see how it could be such a great tool without accuracy.  Being able to hit what you are shooting at would be critical. 

Give me a contender pistol any day.  It would not be that much more difficult to carry around a few different barrels and they each have their own set of sights which means they will be consistent and accurate. 

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Model Caliber Barrel Stock Finish Sights
No. 2702 22LR Match 12" Walnut Blued Adj. Sights
No. 2706 357 Mag 12" Walnut Blued Adj. Sights
No. 2708 44 Rem Mag 12" Walnut Blued Adj. Sights
No. 2720 45/410 Vent Rib 12" Walnut Blued Adj. Sights
No. 3556 223 Rem 14" Walnut Blued Adj. Sights
No. 3568 17 HMR 14" Walnut Blued Adj. Sights
No. 3552 22LR Match 14" Walnut Blued Adj. Sights
No. 3509 204 Ruger 14" Walnut Blued Adj. Sights
No. 3554 22 Hornet 14" Walnut Blued Adj. Sights
No. 3511 6.8 Rem 14" Walnut Blued Adj. Sights
No. 3558 7-30 Waters 14" Walnut Blued Adj. Sights
No. 3560 30/30 Win 14" Walnut Blued Adj. Sights
No. 3562 44 Rem Mag 14" Walnut Blued Adj. Sights
No. 3564 45/70 Gov't 14" Walnut Blued Adj. Sights
No. 3566 45/410 Vent Rib 14" Walnut Blued Adj. Sights
No. 3223 30-30 Win 14" SST Rubber Grips
No. 3209 17 HMR 14" SST Rubber Grips
No. 3213 204 Ruger 14" SST Rubber Grips
No. 3215 6.8 Rem 14" SST Rubber Grips
No. 3216 7-30 Waters 14" SST Rubber Grips
No. 3202 44 Rem Mag 14" SST Rubber Grips
No. 3221 45-70 Gov't 14" SST Rubber Grips

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So tell us where you earned your strips.  We would love to hear
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Missed the humor in it.... But no harm no foul. All who have been in a survival situation know you adapt and over come. You do your best to be prepared but that only goes so far. The X Caliber could certainly have its place in dire circumstances as something is always better than nothing. As for "Arashineko" being ignorant of the Japanese language I was looking for your intent. Most who join this forum are seeking better understanding of optics and related topics. Yes there is a fair amount of bantar and goofin around. But if you are content to be some kinda "storm cat" in all things negitive then you are invited to spend your time else where. If I have again miss read your humor I'll have to ask that you dumb it down for my simplicity.
You make it known that you've earned some stripes. I worked with two types of soldiers of rank. Those who held Honor and Integrity as the standard to live by. And those who could not and did thier best to do harm to all others trying to make themselves "appear" worthy. I'll not ask you where you stand. Your actions will define.
 
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Storm cat in all things negative. Harming others while trying to make themselves appear worthy. That is awesome!   I did not realize that this forum was on the front lines of the war for honor and justice, so I guess I apologize for posting anything that might offend self righteousness. When you are low on ammo, a kit like the X caliber would come in very handy. Not as a main weapon, but as an option. You could have a crack barrel 12g packed with the X caliber kit, in addition to other survival or bug out gear. If I had to choose only one weapon, it would be a toss up between an M4 or my trusty Remington 870, perhaps the x kit would be in a trunk or bin. That's all I'm saying guys. If anyone has one of the x caliber barrels or the whole set, please comment.   
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Tell us about your disaster scenario you went through.  And I am not being factious, I would genuinely like to hear about it.  
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I was at ground zero for Hurricane Katrina in 2005. We had a complete breakdown of city government, and no police, fire, EMS, gas stations, or grocery stores. Whatever you heard or saw on TV was not the half of it. It was a little taste of what could happen on the national level in the right circumstances.
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The first responders were there and working very hard, but more than half the city was flooded and there was almost no radio or cell phone communication. Water and food had to be scrounged, a major injury could have been fatal, and small house fires could and did take out city blocks since there was no water pressure.   No electricity at all for months, this began in the middle of the summer heat. I had seen my share of death way before the Storm, but it was bad. I learned a lot about practical survival in the aftermath.
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Originally posted by supertool73 supertool73 wrote:

I am just having a hard time seeing how in any survival scenario, whether it be hunting or self defense, how having a rifle that is not accurate, has no way of being consistent in its accuracy.  Is extremely difficult to load and reload would be such a great choice.  I would much rather carry multiple firearms a several calibers.  The design itself would not promote accuracy.  Rubber o rings it not a stable attachment point to breed confidence.  Also each caliber change not having its own sights would make things even worse.

I think it is a great idea, but I cannot see how it could be such a great tool without accuracy.  Being able to hit what you are shooting at would be critical. 



I think this pretty much sums it up quite well.
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Tell you what ST, lets find out. I ordered the set, and I'm having rifle sights put on my crack barrel shotgun. I won't get it for two months, but when it comes in I'll make a video and post the results here. I have a you tube channel, haven't posted much lately but this sounds like fun. I am a good shot but no expert sniper, so I'll test the system at say 50-75 yards with standard rounds, I'm an average to good shot, to my results will be for the average joe gun owner. If it has good results then fine, if it blows then ill just keep it as a last ditch system. I'll let y'all know.
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Cool.  I look forward to seeing your results.

My father-in-law works for FEMA as urban search and rescue.  He was sent to Katrina, for the summer when it happened.  He has lots of crazy stories of stuff he saw and stuff they had to do.  Definitely a bad situation for everyone.

Thanks for sharing. 


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The key will be reasonable accuracy. A pistol with a stock can achieve fairly good accuracy over the same pistol without. Also, will the weapon place consistent rounds from the adapter inserts or will the rounds hit all over the place? If I can hit a man sized target at 50 yards center mass that's acceptable, at least for man sized target. This rig can't perform like a real rifle system, but I used to get really good accuracy from the MP5, I think that was a seven inch barrel. No comparing the performance, but we'll see what we'll get.
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My question is will the POI shift every time you take the caliber change in and out. 

And will say the .308 caliber hit a foot higher and 2 ft to the left of the .22 caliber.  (just an example)  Since all of it is based on a single sighting system how will that work out.  Based on the videos on the website, accuracy at 25 yards was not very precise at 75 is was really bad.  
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