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    Posted: January/12/2009 at 10:21

I have found ( in an old box in a basement) what I am told is a WWII German scope.  It is about 6 to 6 1/2" long, square barrel, round ends.  Has a single post recticle(sp) with two adjustment knobs.  The post visibly moves up and down when turning one adjustment.  There is no name just this stamped on the side.... Gw ZF4.  under that is..... 69237.  under that is... ddx. and a triangle.

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I forgot.......is ddx Voigtlander???   HELP.............   Shocked
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Gewehr-Zielfernrohr 4-fach (Gw ZF-4-fach) 
 
some neat info
 
 
 


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Thanks to you both.  You were right.    Excellent     I found a match. 

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Originally posted by hoosier hoosier wrote:

Thanks to you both.  You were right.    Excellent     I found a match. 

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where else can you get info so quick and most of the time reliable.  Maybe I should have said I love the internet.
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Any thoughts on value?
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( try GERMAN SCOPES on ebay and see what they are bringing over there............people collect those scopes....)   
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That really depends on if you find someone wanting/needing something like that. Pricing something of historical value is tricky unless you have a buyer who is out for just that item.

 

If it is that same as the one that was posted on gun broker 4,000 should be easy to get it moved. Send Chris Farris a private message and see what his thoughts are on it. He is the man when it comes to things of this nature. You might be able to find a museum that would love to have it also.

 



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There are some regulars that show up at the Indy 1500 who can help with vaulation.  There are also some people near Bloomington that could help with vaulation.
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next indy 1500 is in March I think and where in Bloomington? Gun shops or private individuals?

 

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Your Zf 4 is a rather common scope and was a 4x scope used on the G 43 and G 41 semi auto rifles as well as some MP 43s. It was meant as a dedicated marksman scope. These scopes vary in value depending on manufacture, condition and even reticle. Also the triangles on the scope were originally colored to indicate the climate the were made for.
I did some research on this scope sometime back on the internet. I will see if I can find the sight and post the address here later.
This is really an interesting scope and ahead of it's time. It is interesting how the Germans came up with so much of the war fighting theory that is used today.
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Try http://snipercountry.com/Articles/HistoricSniperScopes_GwZF4fach.asp
I found this by linking from the G43 collectors homepage from the Small Arms Review Links
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The Germans have always been ahead in optics.  At one of the test ranges we used Askania cameras captured in WWII until they were retired in about 1996.  The quality, resolution was better than the cameras that replaced them.  
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