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was researching the TRS scopes over on Millett's website.

i was kinda surprised to see the TRS line uses 1/8 MOA adjustments instead of 1/4.

i was under the impression 1/8 is ideal for 22 caliber rounds & 1/4 was ideal for 30 cal rounds.

does the Millett have enuff adjustment to go out to a 1000yds?

i know the Super Sniper has a total of 120 MOA adjustment.
but that is 1/4in @ 100 yds VS  1/8 @ 100.
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What info I can find says they have 65 MOA.  If you add a 20 MOA base you should be fine reaching 1000 with a 100 yard zero.
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thanks.

any comments on 1/4 vs 1/8 ??
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That is all personal preference.  When you make one click on the knob do you want it to move your POI 1/4 MOA or 1/8 MOA?  It just comes down to how precise you want your movement to be.  Personally I don't need that kind of small movement for accuracy so I would prefer 1/4 MOA adjustments.
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yeh, definitely 1/4 adjustments for me.

100yds:
4 click = 1 in
8 clicks = 2 in
12 clicks = 3in etc

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1/8 adjustments.
8 clicks = 1in
16 clicks = 2in
24 clicks = 3 in etc...

i just feel with 1/8 adjustments.. you are more likely to run out of adjustment faster.
hence, 1/8 is bad for a Tactical long range scope.
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Originally posted by akjunkie akjunkie wrote:

yeh, definitely 1/4 adjustments for me.

100yds:
4 click = 1 in
8 clicks = 2 in
12 clicks = 3in etc

VS

1/8 adjustments.
8 clicks = 1in
16 clicks = 2in
24 clicks = 3 in etc...

i just feel with 1/8 adjustments.. you are more likely to run out of adjustment faster.
hence, 1/8 is bad for a Tactical long range scope.
 
Just means you are going to have to "crank the knob" more times for the same movement.  If a scope has 65MOA adjustment, it doesn't change because of 1/4 or 1/8 minute clicks.  The scope advertisement is 65MOA with 1/8minuteHowever, even though the scope you are talking about (Millet TRS) advertises 65MOA, the ones I have been aware of have 100MOA or slightly more.  That gives you plenty for "long range" shooting.  However, it is my belief you should be at least as interested in optical quality for shooting long range.   I've seen mixed reviews on the optics.  I've not used on, have friends who have...mixed reviews there, as well.  No one has complained about lack of long range reach, though. 
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I don't know which TRS you are looking at but the TRS-1 has almost 100 moa of vertical adjustment, the LRS-1 has 140 moa vertical. Enough for 1000 yards for a 308 or 30-06
 
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The LRS-1 uses 1/4 moa adjustments
 
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yeh, i noticed but 56MM Objective.  like to keep the scope as close to the barrel as possible.
 
i like 42 or 44mm.. the TRS was pushing 50mm. even that i considered alittle to big for my taste.
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Originally posted by akjunkie akjunkie wrote:

yeh, i noticed but 56MM Objective.  like to keep the scope as close to the barrel as possible.
 

i like 42 or 44mm.. the TRS was pushing 50mm. even that i considered alittle to big for my taste.

This is a 56mm objective mounted on Laredo 7mmSTW. How much closer to the barrel do you need??





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I don't think he means the bell, he wants to be able to use low rings.  Not big tall suckers

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Distance from centerline of objective to barrel is 29mm, from bottom of scope body to barrel is 18.9mm.
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like to thank everyone for their Inputs and pics.

been most helpful.
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FYI, that is a Leupold one piece base and Leupold medium rings on that STW. That is the only rifle I have that I have not "played" with changing scopes, etc. That work was done by Mr. Sizemore, who was the armorer for the 1980 Olympics. Possibly the best gunsmith I have ever known, maybe ever will know. He taught me more in the short time I knew him (a little less than a year) than I had imagined in my life up until then. He just disappeared. Called one day and his phone was disconnected. Don't know if he retired and dropped out of sight or if he passed on. Either way, terrible loss.
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 Lucky the lens caps clear the barrel ! Do you get any mirage from heat ?
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Originally posted by mercenary1947 mercenary1947 wrote:

 Lucky the lens caps clear the barrel ! Do you get any mirage from heat ?
Mr. Sizemore had to file the edges of the cap to clear the barrel.  Works well. 
No heat mirage, but I am very picky about firing this rifle.  Of course, when I hunt with it, it doesn't get fired much, but when shooting from the bench, I cool 30 minutes after 5 rounds, 1-2 minutes, generally, between rounds.  It is a HEAVY barrel and doesn't heat very quickly, but after 5 rnds has started to heat a bit.  I really like the -06's, but this is truly my favorite rifle of all time.  Has a Timney trigger adjusted to 1.5lb. 
 
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