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Has anyone tried this new ammo and I have seen some reports that it holds tight groups if fired from a well made rifle. I am pondering switching to the Winchester XP3 in .308 Win. if I hear more good reports. Thanks!!!
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All I know is the XP3 is supposed to replace the Fail Safe in the Winchester / Combined Technologies bullet lineup, and therefore fill the same niche.
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i havent shot any of this stuff but i can tell you it is very expensive
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Yea I was looking at the Win. XP3 in .308 Win yesterday and a box was going for $35.00. I don't mind paying the extra money if the product is superior though. That is the reason all my optics are Zeiss products because when it comes to my hunting gear I make no compromises whatsoever.
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i paid $48.99 for a box of federal premium high energy for my 300 win mag and now i reload everything, i can make so many boxes of shells for $50 i think i figured that for about $80 i can reload 6-8 boxes of 300 win mag and even more for smaller stuff 25-06 .243 etc you should look into that, then you control everything about the round that comes out of your rifle.
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Is Federal still making .30-06 High Energy with 180gr trophy bonded bear claw bullets, I'm running out of them.Magnificent cartridge - don't want to shoot anything else.
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I've looked at the Federal page and haven't seen HE in 30-06-maybe it is discontinued. I'll check out Barnes TRX, thanks for the tip, but I'm sceptical- I've had such good experiences with HE bear claw...-it is hard to switch to something else. 
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Originally posted by Narrow Gap Narrow Gap wrote:

...That is the reason all my optics are Zeiss products because when it comes to my hunting gear I make no compromises whatsoever.

 

 

 

As to the XP3s;  Are these available as reloading components?  Are they going to be? I haven't seen any yet and I (almost) never buy factory loads.

 

I did see an episode of "Whitetail Revolution" a couple of weeks ago where Ron Spomer and some suit from Winchester were bantering back and forth about how wonderful the XP3 is supposed to be.  Their whole conversation was so stilted and obviously rehearsed that it was really quite difficult to watch. Ron also spent the entire episode in an orange hat and vest with no less than three huge Winchester logos strategically emblazoned so that no matter the camera angle, you could see at least one of them.  (He's never worn any of this same particular blaze orange stuff on any of the other episodes that I've seen.)

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Originally posted by lucznik lucznik wrote:

I did see an episode of "Whitetail Revolution" a couple of weeks ago where Ron Spomer and some suit from Winchester were bantering back and forth about how wonderful the XP3 is supposed to be.  Their whole conversation was so stilted and obviously rehearsed that it was really quite difficult to watch. Ron also spent the entire episode in an orange hat and vest with no less than three huge Winchester logos strategically emblazoned so that no matter the camera angle, you could see at least one of them.  (He's never worn any of this same particular blaze orange stuff on any of the other episodes that I've seen.)

 

 

Yeah, I see that sort of blatant product placement all the time in hunting shows / videos.  It's quite humorous how they'll zoom the camera in to supposedly show the nervous hunter preparing for the shot, while conveniently and simultaneously including the huge Nikon logo on the side of his scope and the Remington logo on his hat and pretending it's just coincidental that his Swarovski binos are angled just right so you can clearly see the silver hawk!  Typical hunting video dialogue... "man, what a buck!  Those Muzzy 125 broadheads really put the smackdown on this brute!  Lemme just set this Mathews Switchback bow with the Extreme Archery Products sight, shooting Carbon Express arrows aside so we can take a good look at him."  You know, just normal banter we all use when talking to friends about our hunts.



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Sorry to offend ya lucznik! I rememeber some of your posts in the past and I rememeber ya said you were not to fond of German products. I feel Zeiss is a maker of superior products but that is my opinion and I think I am entitled to one just as well as you are.
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No offense taken.  (You'd have to work a whole lot harder to ever offend me.)

 

I'm just not partial to commercials.  Zeiss definately makes good optics (perhaps some of the best) but, to suggest that they do not involve any sort of compromise is just silly.  ALL optics (no matter who makes them or what they cost) involve compromises though, admittedly some more than others.

 

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Originally posted by rootmanslim rootmanslim wrote:

The topic is XP 3 ammo

 

Or whatever else comes up.

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Originally posted by rootmanslim rootmanslim wrote:

I would say a 180 gr bullet at 2700 fps would be "high energy" as thats what the original 300 H&H loads "back when" were at and they killed every variety of plains game in Africa with them.
The MRX is not cheap, but I think you will find it is more accurate and more reliable on penetration and tissue destruction than any lead cored bullet.

 

I'm so satsfied with bear claw because it is effective on small and large game far or close- it is not too hard and expands even on small game.My friends have shot barnes x,fail safe,abc,cdp... bullets and they are not so universal as the bear claw.Yes, they give exit wound but it seems that bullet doesen't release so much energy in the animal,and lighter animals tend to go pretty far with rib shots.Bear claw knocks them out where they stand.

Is new MRX "softer" than the old barnes x or failsafe?

 

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Very interesting reading and photos rootman.

It seems it expands rapidly even on greater distances. I'll certainly  give it a try. Did you make any bad shots - through the belly for example and what were the results? This is important to me because I hunt much in the brush and running wild boar in thick vegetation is sometimes very hard to hit on the right place.

 

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