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Has any bought a Winchester M70 rifle since FN Herstal started producing them? Our local firearms dealer has a couple of M70 Supergrades in 30-06 and 270 Win in stock, as well as a Safari 375. I didnt have much experience with the original Winchester rifles, but these new ones are absolutely stunning. How do they compare to the original rifles?

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Originally posted by Glock Glock wrote:

Has any bought a Winchester M70 rifle since FN Herstal started producing them? Our local firearms dealer has a couple of M70 Supergrades in 30-06 and 270 Win in stock, as well as a Safari 375. I didnt have much experience with the original Winchester rifles, but these new ones are absolutely stunning. How do they compare to the original rifles?

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Sorry, I'm not speaking EXTENSIVELY from experience since I don't own a newer M70, but I'll give you my .02, FWIW, opinion.

From what I have gathered, the newer rifles are still worth the asking price.  

Recoil pad has changed and I guess that it's a toss-up between folks as to which they prefer...the newer and thicker black pad, or the older style orange pad.  I personally like the looks of the older and thinner orange pad mixed with the walnut finish that Winchester traditionally has used...but that is me.

I'm not up to snuff on how the newer M70s shoot out of the box, but those older New Haven, CT rifles are MONSTERS whether you take them to a range our out in the woods.  I haven't done extensive research to find how many shots the New Haven steel can handle prior to needing a refurb, but I have "heard" anywhere between 8-10,000 depending on the loads you are firing through them and in 16 years of life, my rifle has MAYBE been fired 60 times!  I would like to think that if you take good care of ANY Winchester manufactured steel, it will last for generations in multiples and let's be honest...how many hunters (which is the majority of M70 owners) REALLY shoot these rifles in the HIGH thousands of times?

The bolt on the newer M70 is supposedly the best of ALL M70 generations.  Traditional and VERY efficient claw extractor with controlled feed, jeweled, etc...

Three position safety...

The trigger on the newer M70 is supposedly the cream of the crop...crisp, zero creep, zero over travel, zero take up, etc.  I personally love the New Haven trigger and don't feel like I could really ask for much more, but I'm sure that what Winchester claims with their M.O.A trigger is gospel and if it's REALLY that good...  

They have a serious reputation to uphold.  No matter which rifle you end up buying in M70 form, I am sure that you are going to be pleased with it.

Am I a die hard Winchester fanatic?  Not really...unless you get me going on my .280 which I think that many manufacturers screwed up with discontinuing from their production lines, but that is a whole new thread in itself.  I may only own ONE M70, but it is my favorite caliber and, in my opinion, the prettiest of all my high powered rifles.

Buy one, you won't be disappointed.
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the new ones are very nice, ive dealt with several, and if i needed a new rifle i wouldnt hesitate to look at a winny.
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Originally posted by pyro6999 pyro6999 wrote:

the new ones are very nice, ive dealt with several, and if i needed a new rifle i wouldnt hesitate to look at a winny.
 
Since I don't have much hands on with the newer ones, how would you rate them against the older models...say 1980-2000ish?
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Unfortunately I all ready have a 30-06 or I would have bought one, now if Winchester will start making the Supergrade in 7mm08 Remington. I will definately have one coming to me, I see they dont make a 308 Win either. My freind that owns our local Gunshop has been trying to get the South African importers, to get him a 308 Win Supergrade since they brought the first shipment of Winchesters back into the Country. Hopefully representatives from Winchester will be at the Huntex show here in South Africa, so we can squeese a 308Win and a 7mm08Rem out of them.

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Originally posted by Glock Glock wrote:

Unfortunately I all ready have a 30-06 or I would have bought one, now if Winchester will start making the Supergrade in 7mm08 Remington. I will definately have one coming to me, I see they dont make a 308 Win either. My freind that owns our local Gunshop has been trying to get the South African importers, to get him a 308 Win Supergrade since they brought the first shipment of Winchesters back into the Country. Hopefully representatives from Winchester will be at the Huntex show here in South Africa, so we can squeese a 308Win and a 7mm08Rem out of them.

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I am a bit of a caliber whore, personally, and those 7mm-08s have been catching my eye more and more over around the last year or so.
 
Like I said in my previous post, I'm not completely brand loyal.  I have a Browning, a Winchester, a Stevens, Marlin, Mosin/Nagant, old Brazilian Mouser, Remington, etc. ranging from .22 and up to .300WSM.  I don't require anything bigger than that and never will for anything on the North American continent.
 
BUT, I will be begging at the wife's heels one of these days, I think, for a good 7mm-08 (probably a Sako or Tikka).  Everything that I have read about them points to an EXCEPTIONAL caliber.
 
Good luck with whatever purchase that you make.
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Glock,

I've not shot one of the new FN Model 70's yet, but I've handled them in stores, at gun shows, etc.
 
The new 70's seem to have perhaps a bit better fit and finish.  The thing I noticed the most is checkering has uniformly looked sharper and more nicely executed on the new rifles to me.  Everything is essentially the same in the overall design except the trigger.  The new trigger has a better feel, with a crisper, nicer pull with less travel, no doubt due to the 3-lever design.  Even though the new trigger has a better feel to it, in a way, I really like the old trigger better for a hardcore hunting rifle because it was simpler.  The old trigger was as simple as triggers get, and wasn't enclosed inside a housing.  Logically, the simpler you can make any mechanical contraption and still accomplish the same purpose with the fewest moving parts possible, the more reliable and foolproof it is... usually.  The old trigger could be adjusted to a nice, crisp 3# or so trigger pull safely, plenty good enough for any hunting use. 
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Thanks RifleDude I was hoping you would respond to the post. I did try the trigger and you are right about the feel, nice and crisp.
Have you guys heard anything accuracy wise? I know you can get a lemon in any brand, was wondering what the general reviews where.

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Originally posted by RifleDude RifleDude wrote:

Glock,

I've not shot one of the new FN Model 70's yet, but I've handled them in stores, at gun shows, etc.
 
The new 70's seem to have perhaps a bit better fit and finish.  The thing I noticed the most is checkering has uniformly looked sharper and more nicely executed on the new rifles to me.  Everything is essentially the same in the overall design except the trigger.  The new trigger has a better feel, with a crisper, nicer pull with less travel, no doubt due to the 3-lever design.  Even though the new trigger has a better feel to it, in a way, I really like the old trigger better for a hardcore hunting rifle because it was simpler.  The old trigger was as simple as triggers get, and wasn't enclosed inside a housing.  Logically, the simpler you can make any mechanical contraption and still accomplish the same purpose with the fewest moving parts possible, the more reliable and foolproof it is... usually.  The old trigger could be adjusted to a nice, crisp 3# or so trigger pull safely, plenty good enough for any hunting use. 

+1 i feel that way as well. i just hope in the future that they continue to expand the chamberings they will offer. a .280 would be tits!Big Grin
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EchoWhiskeyOne my next rifle must be either a 7mm08 or a 9.3x62. 7mm08 is a fantastic calibre, I barreled a k98 action with a 7mm08 Truvelo barrel about 10 years ago. Never got to finish the rifle though, my brother bought it off me. What a SWEET calibre, I never really got to play with reloads, as he was happy with 1 inch groups. He sold the rifle to a freind of mine last year. And I have been helping him to work up some loads, I shot a .460 inch group a week ago at 100m.

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Originally posted by pyro6999 pyro6999 wrote:

a .280 would be tits!Big Grin
 
THIS, I consider to be gospel.
 
I can't believe how many manufacturers abandoned ship on the .280!
 
That concept alone is why I do back flips just about every time that I pull mine out of the gun safe. 
 
Hell, I think that if they brought the .280 back, I'd probably buy another one for my son so that I don't have to give mine to him until he reads the will!
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its slowly gaining ground. maybe in 50yrs it will be common.
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Originally posted by Glock Glock wrote:

EchoWhiskeyOne my next rifle must be either a 7mm08 or a 9.3x62. 7mm08 is a fantastic calibre, I barreled a k98 action with a 7mm08 Truvelo barrel about 10 years ago. Never got to finish the rifle though, my brother bought it off me. What a SWEET calibre, I never really got to play with reloads, as he was happy with 1 inch groups. He sold the rifle to a freind of mine last year. And I have been helping him to work up some loads, I shot a .460 inch group a week ago at 100m.

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This post is in direct alignment with what I read about the caliber every time I pull up some info on it.  I like .308s just fine, but a necked down .308 in a .284 caliber is just DOPE to me!
 
I'm looking forward to my next purchase.  I have been averaging about 1.5 new rifles a year since I turned 23, so we'll see how 2011 pans out!
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my boys each got a brand new 7-08 last october for their first deer rifles. yeah they are only 6 right now, but is it ever to early to get them a rifle?? i bought rem 700 xcr's i think by the time they turn 10 and are legal to hunt up here they should be able to handle the 7-08. im going to start messing with handloads for them soon. the 120gr nosler ballistic tip is my first bullet of choice to try. will see where it goes from there. i started in wyoming at age 14 ( cause wyoming was gay about legal hunting age until i was like 18) with a pre 64 m70 in a .257 roberts, it was my grandads rifle, loved it. wish it were mine. i asked him one time if he were  to go buy a new rifle for deer and elk what caliber would it be in? he thought about it for a bit and then said well the .280 remington. that was in the late 1980's! i have had only one since then, it was a ruger 77mkII, it shot so-so. some day im going to either get one built or buy one in a m70.
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Winchester has always neglected leftys. Even the years from 2003-2006 when they were listed in the catalogs few made it to the market. These were long actions or WSMs. No left handed actions are listed on the website except Historic models. Many of these such as the short actions, never made it to the market.
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Another one with the bolt on the wrong side. More need to be like this one. 


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Originally posted by 3_tens 3_tens wrote:

Another one with the bolt on the wrong side. More need to be like this one. 


what in tarnation kind of scope mount is that?
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I was checking if your 2-7 Kahles would fit the spacing of the rings. Ended yo leaving the 4-14 leo on this one and putting the Kahles on my 17 HMR. It was a better fit.
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Originally posted by Tip69 Tip69 wrote:

Originally posted by 3_tens 3_tens wrote:

Another one with the bolt on the wrong side. More need to be like this one. 


what in tarnation kind of scope mount is that?

It's for those with a single, center eye... allows for proper vertical alignment...

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Originally posted by 3_tens 3_tens wrote:

I was checking if your 2-7 Kahles would fit the spacing of the rings. Ended yo leaving the 4-14 leo on this one and putting the Kahles on my 17 HMR. It was a better fit.


You ended up with that?  LOL

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I have always been a little more partial to the looks of these guys than the newer ones...but looks are a little subjective Wink


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 They were/are fine looking,for sure.  But modern has it's place to. Bucky   I've got a friend whose got a late 80's Win-Tuff (greenish laminate stock).
 
 
 
 
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If anyone is looking a for a Like new Stainless/Synthetic .300wsm M70, let me know. $550
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