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What is the mystical allure of the Remington Model 700 as a base/starting point for a custom or specialized gun?  Everywhere (don't you hate generalizations) you look, the custom gun is based off the Rem. 700 action.  I read that some are using the Savage action, but by in large it is the Rem.  Never had a Rem., only Rugers and Savage and curious to the reason why they are consider the platform off which to start.
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OK I'll be first you answered this in the first sentence ...MYSTICAL ALLURE?  Loco
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 Honestly don't know but they're kinda like a small block Chevy,aftermarket parts are everywhere. Could be just the fact that there has always been so many of them to be had since they're so popular,just like the Chevy.
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My 700 says............



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I think since they are used as military sniper rifles, they must be the best. You know how that train of thought goes. I traded one for a Weatherby Vanguard!Mouth Taped Shut I know it's a terrible offense, but at least the Vanguard shoots. The  Remington was terrible the day I brought it home.
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In their day they and the Winchester Model 70 were the gold standard. Much like as someone suggested, the small block Chevy. I owned a BDL back in the 80s and it was a beauty but it wouldn't be on my short list today. 
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Several reasons:
1.  They are mechanically simple;
2.  Round cylindrical receiver makes them easier than other action designs to chuck and true up in a lathe;
3.  Simple 2-pin trigger assy retention makes trigger upgrades easy;
4.  Stock inletting is comparatively simple compared to other action types;
5.  The round receiver footprint makes proper bedding easier; 
6.  One of the fastest lock times among bolt action rifles;
7.  The sheer popularity of the M700 means that there are more aftermarket parts for this action than other bolt actions.
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Like my custom barrel maker once said, "cause there are so easy to make 1/2 inch shooters out of". In short, they have a proven design of accuracy. Just take a look at all the clone actions on the market today from Borden, Stiller, Hart, Phoenix Machine, Nesika, Lawton, Ed Brown, Pierce and on and on. Fast lock times, simple to machine, stiff receivers, endless aftermarket products, easy to bed are but of a few of the reasons why they are the platform of many custom builds to this day.
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Jeez, Ted you were two fingers ahead of me.
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Remmys are good I have owned one but there are others L/B=Mauser 96-R/C/T=encore



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Parts man parts.....



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Originally posted by Steelbenz Steelbenz wrote:

My 700 says............





Your 700 speaks well.  Very nice.  I'm sure it gets old shooting dime size groups.Wink
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Originally posted by RifleDude RifleDude wrote:

Several reasons:
1.  They are mechanically simple;
2.  Round cylindrical receiver makes them easier than other action designs to chuck and true up in a lathe;
3.  Simple 2-pin trigger assy retention makes trigger upgrades easy;
4.  Stock inletting is comparatively simple compared to other action types;
5.  The round receiver footprint makes proper bedding easier; 
6.  One of the fastest lock times among bolt action rifles;
7.  The sheer popularity of the M700 means that there are more aftermarket parts for this action than other bolt actions.


That make sense.  Ease of use = large market share and/or popular = large aftermarket selection.
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Originally posted by swtucker swtucker wrote:

Parts man parts.....


I know parts man parts but there are as many parts for other actions as there are for the Remington' s about the only short fall is the Ruger why? Sako has always been a favorite Savage is real popular, now the Howa will be coming on strong I'm looking for one now for a project. just when a post like this is made and if everyone states the remmy. People tend to believe this is the only option and it clearly is not. But it is indeed a fine choice by all means.
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There is nothing real sexy about a 700 and it would be low on my list for building a wood stocked safe queen, but the beauty of the 700 is not in esthetic's, it's in practicality and function. If you what a mountain/sheep type rifle, the 700 makes a great choice because it is light by comparison to others such as the Model 70, Sako or Ruger 77. If you want to convert your gun from a drop box magazine to a blind magazine or vise versa, the 700 makes that easy. Trigger options are endless depending on your wallet and IMO a good gunsmith can make a 700 trigger break as clean as almost anything out there. If you want a faster lock time, again a simple firing pin assembly switch is all that's necessary and can be done by the owner. Custom bottom metal assemblies are available to give you blind, drop box or detachable as an option with little fuss or expense. It's certainly not that the 700 is the perfect choice for all applications, but if you want a rifle that is relatively inexpensive, reliable and is upgradeable it makes a tough act to follow.
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Roy. not too argue but I never said anything about a safe queen nor aesthetics, other than that you're assumption is relevant.  Big Smile
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Well then I don't think that there is anything that is "mystical" left...............grin
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What about the Savage action?  I know some people can not get past having the barrel nut due to its looks.  I know when someone wants a purpose built custom, wheter that purpose is a used hunting tool or safe queen, they want form(beautiful lines) and function.  I don't mind the barrel nut and what it offers in the way of setting tolerances makes it an attractive option.  But that is how I see it.
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Maybe its all about convenience parts, availablity, cost. but when I was doing my research for the current build I looked at several custom actions and came really close to buying the Predator by Stiller that was going to set me back around 750.00+/-. But after talkin to many of you and Brian at Kreiger Barrels it just didn't make since to spend that when I could pick up a donar rifle for 300.00 or less. Providing the rifle was in good condition the action would be fine for my intent. Plus when looking at the various custom actions, most were built on the Rem 700 design. Most builders are well established in truing Rem actions and really that speaks for it's self. There are many rifles out there that can be bought for 300.00 or less for donar rifles but some of the barrel builders I spoke with weren't real eager to use for a platform build. Yes there are improvments that can be made to a 700 action but what other action is so close to what the experts want in a real shooter?
 
 
 
 

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Bolts right into any Rem rifle.
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On my list of rifles that I want Remington 700s are way down near the bottom of the list.  I don't care for them.  I'm sure they shoot good.  But they feel flimsy and clackety-clacky to me.  Plus they're so short I feel like it was made by Mattel.  
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Originally posted by Ed Connelly Ed Connelly wrote:

On my list of rifles that I want Remington 700s are way down near the bottom of the list.  I don't care for them.  I'm sure they shoot good.  But they feel flimsy and clackety-clacky to me.  Plus they're so short I feel like it was made by Mattel.  

Loco its ok ed that leaves more of them for the rest of us.
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Sarge, the Stiller is probably the cheapest of the 700 clones out there and would make a great choice for an accurate rifle. You have already got one of the best answers from the barrel maker you spoke with as to why rifle-smiths go with the 700. Some rifle builders will tell you how much work "needs" to be done on prepping a 700 prior to re barreling, but the fact of the matter is that the overwhelming majority need very little work to get true and square. I know one barrel maker that does nothing more than run a light cut across the receiver face, bolt fact (usually not needed either) and a light lapping of the bolt lugs. Install a match grade barrel with a concentric chamber and crown and a little TLC to the factory trigger and you are more than 90% of the way to having a tack driver.
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i gave my m700 a trigger job and my handloads put me under .5moa with a wood stock factory rifle. with a cheapo $40 front rest and a sand bag, i cannot imagine how well it will shoot  off the lead sled.
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