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This post is an extension of my post asking for advice on Proper bases for my mod.16 Savage.
The thing is that I have taken a real turn in the direction that I was going once I visited the SWFA site and found a huge selection of one pc. Picatinny Rail mounts. I feel sure that there is something in their inventory that will be just the ticket.

Thing is I now need to find that one Rail that I am looking for; so now that I know the basic base design I will be using I would really appreciate advice on manufacturers that offer a one piece Picatinny Rail that would meet this criteria.

(1) I would like it to be made of steel.
(2) I would like it to offer as much Bolt Relief area as possible.
(3) I would like it to ride as low to the receiver as possible.
(4) I don't want to spend money on a name but instead quality in material and design if the two can be separated. 

I have noticed that these Rails range from $39.00 to over $100.00. Is there justification for such a fluctuation in what looks like a near identical design?
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Get the TPS.  They are very good quality and a very good price.
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Originally posted by supertool73 supertool73 wrote:

Get the TPS.  They are very good quality and a very good price.
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Why put a pic rail on a model 16 at all? Talley one peice light weights are strong light and do away with the ring to rail clamps that are a PITA! Their only about $50 a set.
 
Here is a set of ex-talls on my Sav 12BTV.  Had to go to ex-talls with a 50MM bell and bull barrell.
My other 3 savages I use med height Talleys for up to 42m bell on sporter or heavy sporter barrels.  Plenty of room to load, all my Savage have the internal box mag!
 
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Problem with Talleys.  You cannot get them with slope if you want to shoot longer distances.  And if you want to take your scope off, you have to completely take them out of the rings.  With good quality picatinny setup you can take them off with virtually no shift in your zero.  With talleys that is not going to happen. 

I like Talleys, but they definitely have a big downside to them for some cases.


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Just to add to what 73 said,I  only use Talley's I think they are great.Tally also sells a quick release ring & a 2 piece ring & rail set & you can buy rails to match any other riffle without having to seperate the quick release rings  from the scope.
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Thunbs Up  Good point, I should have clarified I was talking about talley one piece ring mounts.  
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Rails differ in cost due to material of construction, quality of construction, maker, etc.

TPS will be fine.

We could talk about whether one was "better" than another, but we'd need to define "better" first.
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Originally posted by stickbow46 stickbow46 wrote:

Tomato-TomotoBig Smile


"Tomato-Potato" might be more appropriate.
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Originally posted by Rancid Coolaid Rancid Coolaid wrote:

Rails differ in cost due to material of construction, quality of construction, maker, etc.

TPS will be fine.

We could talk about whether one was "better" than another, but we'd need to define "better" first.


I talked with the guys at TPS today and I agree that they will be more than fine for my application. The tech that I talked with was very knowledgeable and it was evident that he was devoted to our sport.

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I am guessing you talked to Phil.  He is a good guy and occasionally posts on this site.  I have been very happy with the TPS rings and bases I have used.  They held up and when I took my scope off it always brought me back very close to my zero when putting it back on.  
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Originally posted by supertool73 supertool73 wrote:

I have been very happy with the TPS rings and bases I have used.  They held up and when I took my scope off it always brought me back very close to my zero when putting it back on.  
 
Concur!
I will add that I have yet to see any semblance of a ring mark on ANY scope that I've put in TPS rings either.  


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Originally posted by cheaptrick cheaptrick wrote:

Originally posted by supertool73 supertool73 wrote:

I have been very happy with the TPS rings and bases I have used.  They held up and when I took my scope off it always brought me back very close to my zero when putting it back on.  
 
Concur!
I will add that I have yet to see any semblance of a ring mark on ANY scope that I've put in TPS rings either.  

I get ringmarks from TPS rings all the time.... on a 338LM Big Smile

I have been steadily converting most of my rifles to TPS rings and that is just about all I will buy now.  They offer a very good combination of quality and price.

As far as one piece bases go, there some very expensive and not so expensive ones.  In the mid-range, Warne and TPS are good options.  I also have an EGW base that seems quite good.

On my short action Savage, I actually have a Millett one-piece base and it is working well; however, it is mostly there because that is what I had on hand.

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Originally posted by koshkin koshkin wrote:


I get ringmarks from TPS rings all the time.... on a 338LM Big Smile

 
Operator error, Oh Dark One??   Wink 
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Originally posted by cheaptrick cheaptrick wrote:

Originally posted by koshkin koshkin wrote:


I get ringmarks from TPS rings all the time.... on a 338LM Big Smile

 
Operator error, Oh Dark One??   Wink 

I sure hope not...

I suspect it has something to do with a rather violent recoil impulse and ring height.

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I love that 338LM you have ILya.  I have one of those on my wish list.  Love the bullpup (spelling?) design.
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TPS rings have worked well for me.  I have them on five rifles now with no issues.
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