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I have a real beef about this !! as long as it holds Zero thats It!!!! 100 Buck to 2000 buck! I want your imput! 
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I will even buy top of the Line mount > but a scope????? i WILL GIVE YOU 24 hOURS TO MAKE YOUR pOINT!
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You shouldnt as you clearly have not determined that better scopes are needed for your use. I suggest that you stick with a $29.95 Tasco - well they may have gone up a tad since I bought mine a few years back but last trip to the range I was able to tell it has given up as it shoots at one point of impact at 3x and an entirely different point of impact at 9x so bye bye old cheap pos scope.  Now will I give up my more expensive scopes any time soon - NOT LIKELY.  I can find value in having tritium and fiber optic illumination on my Trijicons.  I can find value in the reliable adjustments of my Super Snipers.  I can find value in the clear glass and useful Z800 reticle of my Zeiss Conquest.  I can find value in the warranty of my Leupolds. I can find value in the warranty of my Vortex.  You on the other hand cant so you are probably wasteing your time here.
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You shouldnt as you clearly have not determined that better scopes are needed for your use. I suggest that you stick with a $29.95 Tasco>> i SEE YOU REALLY DONT hUNT>>> NOT REALLY hUNT eLK IN rOCKIES!  
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Thats A start, My friend > lets Get Going .
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When you have a 1,500 buck scope sitting in your Pickup  looking good for 10 years >>> Thats COOL> worth all the money > just a bit of Spit Pollish will do.
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What Im getting At is Scopes are like a new car . very X > but once off the lot they are worth Nothing. Ok You take a rifle a Good proven Rifle is worth its weight in Gold ! so where is the weak link> the scope ! But Big Bucks and if Ridden hard and  put in wet Like real Hunters Do >> so that ridden hard worked  1,550 scope is worth a Buck and change! Word for thought!
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even good scope mounts  are worth more!
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hARD TO SWALLOW BUT tRUE!
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So lets go the next level I have a 1,5oo Buck scope worked hard in Elk Hunts > offers >>>>> most would Pass>>Then you have the Cheaps >> they would start abour 150 Buick Bucks ! So whats with that 1,500 buck scope ?

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How good is the rifle if you can not reliably see your target, or engage that target at extended range? That is what the scope is for is it not? That is what is mine is for. Did my 10x SS that cost $300, do that? Damn right it did! Does my SS 5-20 that cost $1500 do that better? In my opinion it does! That is why I spent my money on it... And shop around the for sale sections on a couple of different forums, you will find that used scopes sell very well! Maybe not at retail, but at a good enough price for it to seem like renting more than buying...
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Originally posted by Rant Rant wrote:

What Im getting At is Scopes are like a new car . very X > but once off the lot they are worth Nothing. Ok You take a rifle a Good proven Rifle is worth its weight in Gold ! so where is the weak link> the scope ! But Big Bucks and if Ridden hard and  put in wet Like real Hunters Do >> so that ridden hard worked  1,550 scope is worth a Buck and change! Word for thought!

A lot of that statement is pure BS.  A scope is worth the money you pay for it.  And if it matters, I do hunt elk in the rockies.  I have blown apart 2 scopes under recoil of my 270 and 300.  The money I pay for a good reliable, durable, repeatable scope with good optics that allow me to see the difference between that cow and spike so I don't shoot the wrong animal.  That scope you say is worth nothing helps make my rifle that good proven instrument.

As for the scope being the weak link, I will call BS on that.  If you buy a scope that isn't a POS, it won't be weak.  Many times the weak link happens to be in the rings or mounts.  Or just maybe in come cases the person trying to operate it all.

Yes, a $100 dollar scope can get the job done, but I have no faith in them for the most part.  If that is what a person can afford, get the best of what you can afford and want to spend.
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I'm not sure I would try to reason with someone who has already made up their mind.
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Originally posted by Rant Rant wrote:

even good scope mounts  are worth more!

Good scope mounts don't do you any good if you have a scope in them that won't stand under recoil, won't track properly, fogs under all conditions.  Good scope mounts are important to a good setup, but are not the end all.
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Originally posted by Ernie Bishop Ernie Bishop wrote:

I'm not sure I would try to reason with someone who has already made up their mind.

Words of wisdom sir!!  I guess I only attempt for others than may come in to read, and be misled.
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I have done the same thing for the very same reason before-Good motivation in my opinion.
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This thread is like talking to Bill O'Reilly or someone similar..... for entertainment purposes only. Big Grin
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Sounds like Rant is an armchair expert who already knows everything.


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The reason for good optics,

 

Hunting,

Just after sun set about 5/8 of a mile away at the end of a field was a little square of woods jutting out onto the field.  The tree canopy is very heavy so even at noon then woods are dark.  Good optics was able to see three deer grazing about 20 yards inside the tree line. Since it just after sunset the woods are Vary Dark.  Good optics were able to see two doe and a nice buck and even his rack.  Lesser optics could not even tell the deer were there.

 

Target shooting,

I have experimented with cheap optics on a caliber that eats scopes like popcorn.  They work to a point but I am on my fourth and fifth scope (primary and backup scope) and they are difficult to use.  Scopes 1 through 3 died.  As a note I have a cheap Tasco world class scope on different rifle that I expected to die but it is still going strong.  It is going to stay until it dies.

 

Just shooting,

I have discovered that I end up taking rifles out to shoot that have better glass.  So let say that I two rifles that are about the same in performance I tend to enjoy shooting that rifle with better glass.  The better glass just increases the joy of shooting by producing less eye strain and generaly less fatigue after a day of shooting.

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More expensive scopes as a general rule are more reliable, and more durable.  The internals are built more robust and with better quality materials.
They cause less eye fatigue because of the better quality glass.  They work better in twilight and when looking in the direction of the sun (lesser scopes white out at this point).  You see less mirage, less artifacting.  You have a significantly clearer image of what you are looking at.  Less chromatic aberration which at small targets and a long way off targets can cause serious issues.  Many of the more expensive scopes have better sweet spots for eye placement.  They have more consistent eye relief.  They have a larger sweet spot in the glass and are clearer to the edges so it does not give you the fish eye affect.  I could probably think of more, but I will stop there.

But all that non important stuff aside.  The best and most important thing is it is much more cool to tell your hunting and shooting buddies you have a $1500 vs a $100 scope.  Chicks dig expensive scopes as well. 


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Or as an conservation piece to hang above the fire place mantel. ;)
No, everything has its place and a person for it except... Harley Davidsons = go nowhere fast POS's already flooding town(sturgis) sorry about the rant.
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