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Please pardon my ignorance if this is a stupid question. I am new to the world of tactical rifles. I just bought a remington 700 in 300WM. I am seriously considering putting a SWFA super Sniper on it.. I have only heard great things about it, especially for the price. My question is "almost every review I have seen/read has been on the 10x42. Is there a certain reason why people are using the 10x? I actually thingk the 12 or 16 might fit my need better. Again since I am new to this i figure there has to be some reason. does the mildot reticle get distorted in some way in the higher powers?
 
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Describe your shooting scenarios for us please. 

Welcome to Optics Talk. 
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Originally posted by cheaptrick cheaptrick wrote:

Describe your shooting scenarios for us please. 

Welcome to Optics Talk. 
Sure thing, like I said I am new to tactical shooting. So I will mainly be shooting paper. The closest range to my home only goes out to 100yds. But the local sheriffs range opens to the public one weekend a month and there range goes out to 500 yds. This rig might get taken on the occassional large game hunt but will be very very rare.
 
If I could find a place to practice shooting out past 500yds I would love it but cant find one at the moment. Unless I hike to the middle of the everglades somewhere.
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There are many people who consider the 10x the optimum power range for a fixed scope, because it allows you the magnification to see targets out there, but are not "AS" susceptible to mirage issues as the upper magnification scopes and also has a larger exit pupil than the upper mags, thus head position isn't as critical and you can get behind it a bit easier. 

Most here consider less more, when speaking of magnification. 

I like variables for hunting, but the SS 10x or 12x, (I have both) will serve you well for your described shooting needs.   
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I've had the 10x and 16x and 20x.  Currently on my 300 WM i am using a 16X SS and couldn't be happier.

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Originally posted by SVT_Tactical SVT_Tactical wrote:

I've had the 10x and 16x and 20x.  Currently on my 300 WM i am using a 16X SS and couldn't be happier.


Would you concur that the 10x is more user friendly, Sir? 
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Yes it is much more user friendly overall.  that said my 300 wm is a target only rifle and would never be used to hunt with in its current state.   16x is unusable to hunt with IMO unless your talking non dangerous game were range is plentiful like PDogs
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Thanks sooo much for the input guys.. I will probably go middle of the road with the 12x.. I could also use a good suggestion for mounting rings?
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Picatinny rail or other? 
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Whats your budget for rings and a base? I wouldnt go cheap because you will be using them again if you ever decide to upgrade your scope.
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Originally posted by cheaptrick cheaptrick wrote:

Picatinny rail or other? 
My 700 came with a picatinny style rail and a junk scope. I do not have a prefference either way. Just trying to stay on a budget. The original rings are so bad that when the rifle recoils the scope slides in them. So they have to go.
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What is your budget? What is the make of your rail? Steel or aluminum? 
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Originally posted by cheaptrick cheaptrick wrote:

What is your budget? What is the make of your rail? Steel or aluminum? 
My budget is cheap, but functional, I mean I spent $500 on a gun and spending $300 on a scope. So definatelycheap. I am fairly certain the rail is steel have no Idea the make.. Once again it came on the gun when I bought it.
 
Basically I am trying to put together a fairly accurate gun, with optics that at least track well so I can go out and practice. In the future I can get upgrade if I stick with the hobby. Just looking for a decent starting point.
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Look into Talley lightweights they run about 40 dollars and work well. Youll see them recommended a lot on this forum. I use them for my 1 inch scope but they sell 30mm rings as well.
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What's "cheap" too you? Need specifics, my friend.  

You can keep the rail and get some good tactical style rings for around $100, or you can sh*t can the rail and go with Talley Light Weights for around $50 shipped. Your call. 

The Talleys will look something like this.

 

The rail option will look similar to this. 


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This is with a 20 MOA rail and a SS. 


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Originally posted by cheaptrick cheaptrick wrote:

What's "cheap" too you? Need specifics, my friend.  

You can keep the rail and get some good tactical style rings for around $100, or you can sh*t can the rail and go with Talley Light Weights for around $50 shipped. Your call. 
Well the price difference between on e and the other being $50buck I dont think will break the bank. Is there any advantage to the rail with tactical rings over the Talleys? Which rings would you suggest?
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Well, it depends. 

I use a love my rails, but have become recently smitten by the Talley LW's. They are lighter, allow easier loading, via an open ejection port and will hold up to magnum recoil with no issues. No rail riding over the top of the ejection port is nice. 

I have often suggested getting a 20 MOA rail on a tactical style rifle, even with an SS and it's abundance of W/E adjustment, because if you ever switch out the SS scope with a unit with lesser UP, you already have a built in 20 MOA of up built in. Rail stays with rifle, even though scopes will come and go.  

Picatinny rails generally allow a bit more fore and aft movement, making scope positioning a bit easier. Let's face it, a Picatinny rail is a GREAT scope mounting platform and has been proven over and over by shooters of all kinds and even the most severe of situations. Certainly worthy of ones consideration. 

If I were to stay with the rail, I'd look closely at Seekins, or Aadland rings.  

Talley LW's, the low 30mm is what will work for you. 

  
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Originally posted by cheaptrick cheaptrick wrote:

Well, it depends. 

I use a love my rails, but have become recently smitten by the Talley LW's. They are lighter, allow easier loading, via an open ejection port and will hold up to magnum recoil with no issues. No rail riding over the top of the ejection port is nice. 

I have often suggested getting a 20 MOA rail on a tactical style rifle, even with an SS and it's abundance of W/E adjustment, because if you ever switch out the SS scope with a unit with lesser UP, you already have a built in 20 MOA of up built in. Rail stays with rifle, even though scopes will come and go.  

Picatinny rails generally allow a bit more fore and aft movement, making scope positioning a bit easier. Let's face it, a Picatinny rail is a GREAT scope mounting platform and has been proven over and over by shooters of all kinds and even the most severe of situations. Certainly worthy of ones consideration. 

If I were to stay with the rail, I'd look closely at Seekins, or Aadland rings.  

Talley LW's, the low 30mm is what will work for you. 

  
Awesome I cant thank you enough.. I will consider both options.. By the time my tax refund comes I will be ready to order Wink
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Your more than welcome. I'm sure others will give their take on your situation, so stand by for more intel.

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Cheap... do you have to lap those Talley's?
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Originally posted by Tip69 Tip69 wrote:

Cheap... do you have to lap those Talley's?

Negative. 
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