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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Goju Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: February/27/2008 at 18:27
Originally posted by zanmor zanmor wrote:

Change isn't so bad, it's the type of change. I'd gladly welcome a change back to following our Constitution. Unfortunately we're looking at a change to Socialism...


That's pretty much it in a nutshell.
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Originally posted by Goju Goju wrote:


Originally posted by zanmor zanmor wrote:

Change isn't so bad, it's the type of change. I'd gladly welcome a change back to following our Constitution. Unfortunately we're looking at a change to Socialism...
That's pretty much it in a nutshell.




agreed
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote texashunter Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: March/01/2008 at 00:08
Originally posted by cyborg cyborg wrote:

Originally posted by texashunter texashunter wrote:

Originally posted by cyborg cyborg wrote:

I'm a Libertarian and I wouldn't give my vote to Mr Paul................ What does that tell you bro.......
...your not a constitutionalist Look at his voting record compared to the constitution, He has a 100% Constitutionally correct voting record

OH REALLY????????????

I suppose that believing in protecting this Country from possible and very REAL threats, that are over seas and on this very continent as well is uncostitutional????????

That makes absolutely no sense at all........... To hear you tell it anyone that is not in line with your view is UNCONSTITUTIONAL......... Ron Paul is in many ways a fantastic candidate............. I will not however lend my vote to anyone that lacks the stomach to do the job that is necessary to insure the long term safety of this Country........... I also believe in DOCUMENTING immigrants. Would you have open borders in this day and age, with so many that would destroy us? That is foolish, I am no ones fool, least of all someone that claims to be a COSTITUTIONALLY accurate candidate, and blindly allow the threats to this Country in and welcome them at that..............My idea of a welcoming party for these individuals is the fireworks that come from the muzzle blast of an AMERICAN held gun. STATES RIGHTS IS CONSTITUTIONAL, Where has that concept gone?

FREE and OPEN BORDERS and an antiwar stance is not a CONSTITUTIONALLY mandated concept.

Since when is it Constitutionally wrong to be at war with our enemies, or to fight for freedom for others for that matter?

YOU SIR are DEAD WRONG on these issues as is Mr Paul............

I am a CONSTITUTIONALIST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! As such I have fought for the rights of people to be self loathing and to hate this Country as well............. WHERE SIR DO YOU STAND?

I suppose then also that to have a military is UNCONSTITUTIONAL?

To use it for the protection of our sovereignty is UNCONSTITUTIONAL?

HMMMMMMMMMMMM........... I guess being PATRIOTIC is also then UNCONSTITUTIONAL????

WRONG!!!!!!!!!!!! THINK AGAIN SIR, especially before you start saying that I AM NOT A CONSTITUTIONALIST!!!!!!!




I dont know where you got the idea that Ron Paul is for open borders? This is straight from his website.

The talk must stop. We must secure our borders now. A nation without secure borders is no nation at all. It makes no sense to fight terrorists abroad when our own front door is left unlocked. This is my six point plan:

Physically secure our borders and coastlines. We must do whatever it takes to control entry into our country before we undertake complicated immigration reform proposals.
Enforce visa rules. Immigration officials must track visa holders and deport anyone who overstays their visa or otherwise violates U.S. law. This is especially important when we recall that a number of 9/11 terrorists had expired visas.
No amnesty. Estimates suggest that 10 to 20 million people are in our country illegally. That’s a lot of people to reward for breaking our laws.
No welfare for illegal aliens. Americans have welcomed immigrants who seek opportunity, work hard, and play by the rules. But taxpayers should not pay for illegal immigrants who use hospitals, clinics, schools, roads, and social services.
End birthright citizenship. As long as illegal immigrants know their children born here will be citizens, the incentive to enter the U.S. illegally will remain strong.
Pass true immigration reform. The current system is incoherent and unfair. But current reform proposals would allow up to 60 million more immigrants into our country, according to the Heritage Foundation. This is insanity. Legal immigrants from all countries should face the same rules and waiting periods.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote texashunter Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: March/01/2008 at 00:24
Well one of the men who wrote the constitution said "Peace, commerce and honest friendship with all nations; entangling alliances with none." Thomas Jefferson

The United States invaded Iraq under false pretenses without a constitutionally-required declaration of war. Our Founders understood that how we go to war is as important as when we go to war, which is why they vested the power to declare war in the Legislative Branch. The resolution passed in Congress authorizing the president to use force in Iraq said nothing about the U.S. Constitution, but it mentioned the United Nations a dozen times. The United States should never go to war to enforce UN resolutions!

Military experts, including Generals Barry McCaffrey and John Batiste, have sounded the warning that our military is stretched so thin because of Iraq and our other commitments that, as General Batiste put it recently, “our Army and Marine Corps are at a breaking point with little to show for it.” A weakened and over-committed military is a recipe for a national security disaster. Meanwhile, Washington continues to talk about how many other countries it could send troops to.

As if a national debt topping $9 trillion is not bad enough, each day this war is fought, deficit spending increases. To avoid raising taxes and the subsequent anger that would follow come election time, the federal government will continue to borrow money from countries like Saudi Arabia and China, making your children and grandchildren’s futures dependent on the actions of other nations and selling out our national security to the highest bidder.

Also I will say again that Ron Paul has more donations from troops than all other candidates combined, so saying that "If I am against the Iraq War, I am against the troops", is utterly ridiculous.
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Absolutely. I was against the war in Vietnam, but I wasn't against the TROOPS, for God's sake!!
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All I'm gonna say about this bs view that is being propogated by CNN and the like is,,,,,,Cencored That and BITE ME!!!!!!
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