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Ok, this is for anyone out there. I have seen the same "Eagle" logo on the Super Sniper, Millet, Eagle Eye and Hammers scope boxes. Now from what I can tell most of these are made in China,
and according to Eagle Eyes website they are made in Czech Republic, Hammers had no info that I could find. So does anyone know the straight scoop on where this stuff is manufactured??

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Super Sniper scopes are manufactured in Japan.

Millett scopes are manufactured in China (these are among the few Chinese scopes that are actually pretty well made and supported by the company).

Eagle Eye optics are made in China (likely in the same factories that make Leapers and NcStar scopes, which are crap).

I've never heard of hammer rifle scopes, so I can't tell you anything about them.

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Originally posted by koshkin koshkin wrote:

Super Sniper scopes are manufactured in Japan.


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ST4 WELCOME

Eagle eye uses the Czech lenses, folks I know using them like them very much. The glass is pretty nice. The bodies from what I hear are made in the same factory that makes the Merlin and Menace for Falcon.(Shrugging) beyond hearsay I'm not sure. Hammers appears to be made in the same factory as the barska and a-1 optic scopes, I hope this helped

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I had a chance to look through the Eagle Eye scopes, and while they are not on the level of S&B, Zeiss, Nightforce, etc, they are definitely decent. Thanks to everyone for the replies, I have
several high end scopes US Optics, S&B, but am always looking into other stuff. Bottom line a $400 rifle doesnt warrant a $1800 scope in my opinion. My big beef is I absolutely will not buy
anything from China to put on my equipment, just being stubborn but again thats my opinion. Official response from the EE dealer is that they are made in Czech, however have yet to tell
me where or what optics co grinds the glass. I will post info as soon as I get it if anyone is interested. Thanks again to all that have posted.

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All I could find on the Czech connection of Eagle Eye scopes is that some of their glass is made in the Czech republic.

Looking through their product line-up, I see several models that are absolutely identical (other than the logo) to Leapers and NcStar scopes: suepr compact 3-9x42, 2-6x28 and others.  Moreover, some of the display a reticle that has been seen only on Chinese NcStar scopes, to the best of my knowledge (they refer to it as R14).

St4sniper, who is the dealer you talked to?  They have some configuraitons I find interesting, so if I am wrong about their origin I might buy one for evaluation.

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Ilya,

I don't know if you went here or not.

www.qualityriflescopes.com they are a dealer, and the link on the right ( Teds picture) he tells you they were made in china, with czech glass.

I hope this helps.

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Yeah, I've seen that.  I think I have also seen these scopes at a couple of gunshows.  There is a dealer who comes here from Arizona for some gunshows who had Eagel Eye scopes.  I did not pay too much attention to Eagel Eye scopes since a couple that I looked at were in every way identical to Leapers and NcStar crap right next to them.

It is entirely possible however, that some of there scopes use Czech glass, but that was not the ones I looked at.

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 Yeah, Just cause it's czech don't mean it's meopta quality, who knows where it was ground, thats one of the biggest factors.

Just like not all chinese glass is crap, just 99% of it.  

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Here is the reponse I received from the dealer:

All the scopes, binoculars, range finders, lasers, flashlights etc are made
in the Slovac republic (Checkoslvakia). They all come with a live time
warrenty. They are shock proof, water proof, fog proof, nitrogen purged for
clarity and double 0-ring sealed.
Thank You, Joe Dyer

I replied asking where or whom the glass manufacturer was, I have yet to receive a reply. It may be a case of you get what you pay for ( parts made all over and assembled in Czech) or it may
be a lesser known co trying to break into the market. I have noticed the similarities to other chinese junk, however upon inspecting the ones i looked at last weekend the glass was superior
to the chinese scopes. Hopefully I will receive a response.

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Czech Republik and Slovakia are too different countries, although in the Cold War days they were forcibly merged into one country (Czechoslovakia).  I think they need to get their story straight regarding which country it is that makes these scopes.

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Ok guys, here is the latest response from EE :

The Factory Eagle Eye Optics are made in is owned by Istvan J. Kovary Of IJK
Sales and is outside of Bratislava in the Slovak Republic!

See www.ijksales.com

Joseph Dyer's Bestshot
"You deserve the Best Shot"
Joseph Dyer Owner
Phone; 386-304-4680
Web; www.bestshotdirect.com
Email; bestshot@outdrs.net

I sent a response back asking if they could further illucidate as to where the rest of the parts are manufactured and or assembled. More when I get the info.

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Interesting.  I am completely unfamiliar with any optics out of Slovakia.  I suppose I could buy one and do a review.  They have a couple of 1.5-4.5x26 models I am interested in and an unusual 4x40 roof prism scope, which could be interesting.

I have seen the ijksales website before and was a little put off by the generally incompetent sales pitch.

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Well I have received what I consider to be a truly puzzling resonse from one of their distributors. First let me preface this by stating that I have contacted no fewer than four of their
distributors and received a response from only one. What I have attached below is my entire correspondence with the distributor. I am posting it for all so you may make up your own mind
as well as any criticisms anyone may have.

>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: <theaxe@dslextreme.com>
>>>>> To: <bestshot@outdrs.net>
>>>>> Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2007 2:07 PM
>>>>> Subject: scope question
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Where are the Eagle Eye scopes made?
>>>>>>

>>>>

>>>>>>>>
>>>> Betty & Joseph Dyer
>>>>> All the scopes, binoculars, range finders, lasers, flashlights etc
>>>>> are
>>>>> made
>>>>> in the Slovac republic (Checkoslvakia). They all come with a live
>>>>> time
>>>>> warrenty. They are shock proof, water proof, fog proof, nitrogen
>>>>> purged
>>>>> for
>>>>> clarity and double 0-ring sealed.
>>>>> Thank You, Joe Dyer

>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: <theaxe@dslextreme.com>
>>> To: "Betty & Joseph Dyer" <bestshot@outdrs.net>
>>> Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2007 4:42 PM
>>> Subject: Re: scope question
>>>
>>>
>>>> Where is the factory located? I know of several optics manufacturers
>>>> located in the Czech Republic and was curious as to which one grinds
>>>> the
>>>> lenses, and are they in fact completely manufactured in the Czech
>>>> Republic??
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,

>>
>> Betty & Joseph Dyer

>>>
>>> The Factory Eagle Eye Optics are made in is owned by Istvan J. Kovary
>>> Of
>>> IJK
>>> Sales and is outside of Bratislava in the Slovak Republic!
>>>
>>> See www.ijksales.com
>>>
>>> Joseph Dyer's Bestshot
>>> "You deserve the Best Shot"
>>> Joseph Dyer Owner
>>> Phone; 386-304-4680
>>> Web; www.bestshotdirect.com
>>> Email; bestshot@outdrs.net
>>>
>>>


>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <theaxe@dslextreme.com>
> To: "Betty & Joseph Dyer" <bestshot@outdrs.net>
> Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2007 11:22 AM
> Subject: Re: scope question
>
>
>> Thank you for your reply, however this does not completely answer my
>> question as to where the rest of the scope is manufactured or assembled.
>> Can you be more forthcoming and let me know the rest of the
>> story?

>>

Betty & Joseph Dyer
,
>
> I am sorry if You can not follow my instructions, I told you who to
> contact
> for more info Please do not bother us any more!
>
> Joseph Dyer's Bestshot
> "You deserve the Best Shot"
> Joseph Dyer Owner
> Phone; 386-304-4680
> Web; www.bestshotdirect.com
> Email; bestshot@outdrs.net

The following was my reply to their last email.

>Wow, what great customer service! Apparently I was misled by your website into
thinking that any questions I may have would be answered with respect and courtesy .
As to following your instructions for further information, what instructions?

Perhaps you are just another second rate company trying to sell more inferior
Chinese garbage to the shooting industry. I don't know where you received your
business training but in the shooting world replies like this will be looked upon
with the utmost scrutiny.

If your equipment is made to high quality standards and is a competitive product
than you should be forthright and state where your equipment is made and let the
consumer make the decision. Misleading behavior such as this is neither ethical or
intelligent business practice.
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I suppose that answers the question:  they are peddling some ChiCom crap most likely.

Either way, with that kind of a response, it will be a cold day in hell before I buy anything from these people.

ILya
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Yes well I unbelieavably I received yet another response:

This is non productive!

I asked you to contact IJK Sales for further Info, The product is
manufactured in the Slovak Republic wether you like it or not and the owner
of the company lives in Glendale AZ.

Wow did I miss something here, I understand that you are not a customer and
you have not bought from us and if that makes you a customer in your mind
you are mistaken!!! I will block your further Emails!

Joseph Dyer's Bestshot
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Joseph Dyer Owner
Phone; 386-304-4680
Web; www.bestshotdirect.com
Email; bestshot@outdrs.net

Now perhaps I missed something however I don't believe theses people ever "directed" me to contact anyone else. In the end this is an excersize in futility but I believe we have the answer
as to where the units are made. So perhaps we should change the direction of this excersize and share our "worst case" customer service responses and rate them. Thanks to all for your
input, this I believe is one of the best uses of a forum such as this.

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The best advice I can give is do not believe what you hear from one person, Because they have an agenda that means anyone posting here can have an agenda that you do not know about the only way to prove to yourself that an optic is good or worthy of ownership is to own one!!!

 

I bought a 3-12x40 mildot scope from the Sportsmans Guide and put it on an M1A it was the most clear optic I have ever bought and I have owned all the top names, This scope was actually the most accurate I have used at that point!

 

I bought a custom Varmint Rifle .223 and put on a 10-40x50mm Red and Blue Illuminated Eagle Eye Sidewinder at 200meters the rounds are all in the same hole!!! 

 

Eagle Eye Optics are made in the Slovak Republic (all Manufacturing) and they are assembled in China.

 

I have watched Eagle Eye Optics come out as new and the copies are out by the cheap manufacturers in about a month after they release a new item however the Eagle Eye Quality is always better when I compare them!

 

With that said be your own judge!

 

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Originally posted by bestshot bestshot wrote:

The best advice I can give is do not believe what you hear from one person, Because they have an agenda that means anyone posting here can have an agenda that you do not know about the only way to prove to yourself that an optic is good or worthy of ownership is to own one!!!

 

I bought a 3-12x40 mildot scope from the Sportsmans Guide and put it on an M1A it was the most clear optic I have ever bought and I have owned all the top names, This scope was actually the most accurate I have used at that point!

 

 

Welcome to Optics Talk.

 

Uh...I disagree with your statement that "one must own something" in order to know they are worthy.

 

One of the things this forum likes to do is to advise or try to prevent someone from buying an optic that won't give them good service. We call it "preventative maintenance".    

 

This forum and some of it's esteemed members are considered experts all across the vast wilderness of the Internet.

When someone wants to know the real low down on an optic, they come here.   

There's not a more diverse pool of optic geeks on the web!!

 

If The Hive gives an optic the thumbs down, I'd avoid it like the plague. If they give it the thumbs up, I'd buy it sight unseen.

 

I don't subscribe to the "if you don't own, don't knock it" doctrine. I have used several crappy optics that were "purchased" by others. After I looked them over and or used them and I thought they sucked, I say so.

 

Very few agendas here, friend.  

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Bestshot, are you are dealer for Eagle Eye? 

If yes, are you saying that ALL Eagle Eye products are made in Slovakia ad assembled in China?

Thanks.
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Yes Koshkin I am and they are with that said I own them and shoot with them, We have three gun match people using them with great results!

 

I don't care who you buy them from but try them you will love them!

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Fair enough.  I will buy one and post my review.

Now, what is your take on the roof prism 4x40 scope?

ILya
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We are selling alot of them for AR's and AK's  The soldiers returning from the Gulf are saying they would rather have them than the ACOG!

 

The Eagle Eye Owner Lives in Glendale AZ and handles any Repairs himself youve got to respect that! If a problem does arise he wants to nip it in the bud! Return shipping is usually within 7-10 days!

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Bestshot,

I am happy to see another rep on the forum, WELCOME.

How much adjustment is typical elevation, and windage (Decline)

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AW Just shoot me,

 

 I forgot to ask glass or wire reticle?

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Cyborg,

 

The reticle is etched glass made by Eagle Eye in the Slovak Rrepublic in a factory Owned by Istvan J. Kovary of Ijk sales on the snipers they are mildot (first focal plane) different models are available illuminated (Red&Blue) (Red) and (non Illuminated).

 

Range of click adjustment 1/8" MOA elevation =1000 clicks windage 1000 clicks!

 

Thanks for the intrest!

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