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I am fixing to buy a new scope for my 6.5x55 target rifle. The weapon will be used for mid range target shooting (100 to 600m) and big game hunting. I am looking at either the Super Sniper 10x or Nikons B/M 4.5X14 SF BDC.
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Welcome to The OT.

 

I'm not sure your going to be happy with either scope, to fill both roles you mentioned.

Let me preach on...........  

 

For your target paper punching needs, go for the SS. You'll be glad you did.

I love mine.

 

But for big game hunting, the SS (or anyother fixed 10x) is not in it's "element", in my opinion. 

You'd be better served with a variable like the BM or Monarch with the BDC reticle.

http://www.swfa.com/pc-6840-220-nikon-45-14x40-buckmaster-ri flescope.aspx

 

On the other hand, the Nikon's BDC reticle "may" not be the ideal target scope.

(I haven't used one yet, unfortunately.)

But, the reticle may not allow for precision shooting.

 

I'm speaking ideally, so maybe someone else will chime in and give their opinions.

 

Do you have any idea of a budget?

We may be better able to help you if we knew how much you have set aside for a scope.



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Thanks for the info. I know that I would be trying to multi - task either of these scopes for the applications I plan on using them. Budget, I am trying top stay in the $300.00 range and that can also be a limiting factor. Thanks again for any replies, Later.
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I also do not know what you classify as big game, but the rifle is also a bit light for true big game. You will need to go to at least a .3 caliber upwards.
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I am interested in knowing more about your 6.5 X 55 if you ever have time.
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No more info on this matter? I would really like more feed back. I really like the looks of the SS10X42 but I don't know anyone who has ever seen or used one on their weapon. Also I am unsure of its warranty and I know the Nikon has a lifetime warranty. Thanks for any help, Later.

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Originally posted by KOOT KOOT wrote:

No more info on this matter? I would really like more feed back. I really like the looks of the SS10X42 but I don't know anyone who has ever seen or used one on their weapon. Also I am unsure of its warranty and I know the Nikon has a lifetime warranty. Thanks for any help, Later.

 

http://supersniper.com/

 

Warranty is no issue with the SS.

SWFA, the owners of this site, are the sole distributors of the Super Sniper. No worries.

 

Me and mine.

Below is a 100 yard 5 shot group w/ the 10x SS.  

 

 

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Nice shotgroup!!!! What type/caliber weapon is that? And would you recommend this scope for hunting purposes? Later.
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.308 Remington LHVS.

 

As I said earlier in this thread, a 10x fixed scope is not always ideal for hunting.

Depends on what your hunting and how far out you plan on shooting, though I guess.

 

Here's another forum members superb groups @ 100 yds using a 10x SS.

 

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Thanks again cheaptrick. I will keep this in mind. Have you ever had any problems with your SS scope? By the way where's your spotter?
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Originally posted by KOOT KOOT wrote:

Thanks again cheaptrick. I will keep this in mind. Have you ever had any problems with your SS scope? By the way where's your spotter?

 

Negative, no problems to report with Super Sniper.

I just wish I would have bought one sooner.

 

 

He likes the SS too.........

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RAAACK  Up two clicks  Left three  Wind 3/4 vlaue Pretty Bird

 

I see your spotter is in snow camo.

 

 

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that would be cheating to take that bird coyote hunting, i could see you out there letting the bird fly out scan the area fly back pearch on the ss and say  rahh polly see one puppy and one kitty, rahh, pretty bird wanna cracker.

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That would be great


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yeah but that would take all the fun out of coyote hunting as well
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Probably, but I hunt them more as a pursuit, these days. They are devastating on the deer in the deep snow and two of them nearly got my German Wirehaired Pointer. I am not too particular with the method anymore as long is it is legal.
CT could use him kind of in the reverse of a tolling dog. They use these dogs across the border on Walpole Island to flag ducks in. They run around in the fields and the ducks come in for a look. Having a bird fly around close by to bring in a predator, now that would be something. To finish it off with a shot from a 6.5x55 and an SS would be perfect.

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i dont know if you have ever hunted coyotes out west but one thing you learn quickly is that if you see a magpie flying around there is a coyote near bye also, they both eat the same road kill winter kill animals, we kill them for the hides in minnesota the wolves are what harass the deer, they delisted them but it will be at least 5 years before they open a hunting season on them.
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No, never out west and never had the chance when big game hunting there. That is nice having the magpies to key in on for locating doggies. The same goes for the ravens and seagulls in the U.P., where they are feasting, the coyotes are near by. So are the pesky bear, too.
The wolf sign I've seen around me shows much smaller packs than the coyote. I haven't heard of any moose kills, yet. I don't know if they will open them up in Michigan because of all the do-gooders in the Detroit and Traverse City areas. Now, a 6.5x55 would be pretty strong wolf medicine. It might be a bit heavy in KOOT's target gun to carry around, though.


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nah load em up with 85 grain hollow points
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Yeah, baby.......every grain counts      Those would be devastating on a 125# critter.
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but then again so is 180 grain ballistic tip coming out of a 300 win mag on a 40# coyote blows em in half dont recommend that load if you plan on selling the hide though.
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Originally posted by 8shots 8shots wrote:

I also do not know what you classify as big game, but the rifle is also a bit light for true big game. You will need to go to at least a .3 caliber upwards.


Hi, 8shots, I used to think so, too. Check out Chris' tales from Africa with his 6.5.
http://opticstalk.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=5950&PN=1





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you would be surprised that the sectional density on some 6.5mm's is more than some .308's the 6.5 is an amazing caliber, and tahqua is right chris has shot a lot of animals in africa with his 6.5x.284 his ph wasnt happy with  him at first but then chris proceeded to knock of animal after animal with one shot the ph was impressed with the "little" gun by the end of the day saying he thought his was apparently good enough., so i would bring a 6.5 after game if i were coming, of course if i were after cape buffalo it would be different.
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