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I’m looking at buying one of the following and would appreciate advice from people with actual experience.

Leica 2.5 – 10 x 42 ER

Schmidt & Bender 2.5 – 10 x 40 Summit

Swarovski Z3 3 – 9 x 36

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Which scope would you regard as having the most superior optics?

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I have no experience with the new Leica, and since it hasn't been on the market long, you're not likely to hear very many opinions on it.

Any reason you have ruled out the Zeiss Victory Diavari?  You are comparing two 1" tube scopes with a 30mm scope, so I assume main tube diameter wasn't the reason.  To me, in terms of pure optical performance, it's very hard to beat Zeiss, though the optical difference between Swarovski, S&B, Zeiss, and I assume Leica as well is so slight that it comes down to personal preference, often based on features of the scope that aren't optically related.

I own the Z3 (Actually the AV; it's the same scope with a different name) 3-9X36 and 3-10X42, as well as a PH and Z6 Swaro.  I also own a S&B Zenith and a Zeiss Diavari.  All are optically superb, and I couldn't tell you which I think is best.  What I like about one scope is different than what I like about the other.

I think Zeiss provides probably the best light transmission and resolution.  My eyes really like the combination of contrast and Zeiss-like resolution of the S&B best, but it has narrower field of view and more pronounced tunnel vision on low power than Zeiss.  Swarovski provides very good resolution as well, but not quite there with the Zeiss and S&B.  Yet it seems to have higher contrast than Zeiss, equal with S&B, and the least amount of tunnel vision of any of the premium scopes.  S&B and Swarovski seem to have similarly good light transmission, but Zeiss seems to edge both of those very slightly in that category.  The optical differences are very subtle, and someone else will disagree with my observations.  I would also place the Kahles C/ CSX in the same category as the above scopes optically.  I like the W/E adjustment knobs of the S&B the best, the light weight of the Swarovski best, and the reticle selection Zeiss offers best.  Appearance-wise, I like the looks of the new Leica best, and I like the fact the Leica offers the most usable center tube length for solving difficult mounting length issues.  I think probably Swarovski has the best customer service.  You can make a valid claim that any of the above are as good as it gets. 

Of your choices above, I would be tempted to buy the Leica simply because I'm intrigued by it and I like the mounting length it offers.  Between the two 1" scopes, I'd probably get the S&B Summit, because based on what I know about S&B scopes in general, I have the feeling it might be more durable than the Swaro Z3 and I like the 2.5-10X range better than 3-9X.  However, if you want the lightest premium scope you can find, the Z3 3-9X36 is it.


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RifleDude,

Thanks for your informative reply.

I left the Zeiss Victory range out because I have one of those and I’m curious to compare the Zeiss to some of the other top end scopes. I use to have Leupolds on all my rifles and I never felt “underglassed” with them, but then I got a Leica Geovid. The Leica made me appreciate the value of quality optics.

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