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I have in hand two unscoped rifles & two unmounted scopes...
 
Sako 85 Hunter 6.5mm Swedish
CZ550 American 6.5mm Swedish (probably going to convert this to 7mm Mauser, eventually)
 
Swarovski AV 3-10x42, 4A reticle
Kahles CL 2-9x42 Multizero, 4A reticle
 
I paid a lot more for the Swaro because I got the Kahles as a close-out from CDNN, but based on what I've read the Kahles may actually be considered the better product (e.g. if Swaro AV = "American Lightweight", the Kahles CL rated 1 group higher on this site's 2009 Riflescope scale).
 
The Sako is clearly the nicer rifle, so I want to mount the best of the two scopes on it.
 
Thoughts?
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I would put the Multizero on the one I was more likely to hunt.
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Originally posted by Urimaginaryfrnd Urimaginaryfrnd wrote:

I would put the Multizero on the one I was more likely to hunt.
 
That brings up an interesting question - is the Multizero best used as a BDC for a single load, or a MPBR zero for multiple loads for multiple purposes (the Swede being pretty versatile)?
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I call it a draw, both are very nice scopes. I had a CL4-12x52 with multi zero, but never really took the time to set and learn the function.
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I use a CL MZ scope on my 7-30 Waters and find that if I have a zero for a certain weight bullet (say 120 gr), if I set the MZ for another bullet (say a 140 gr), I just take the rifle to the range and see where the 120 goes when I have it on the 140 setting.  This way I have can use the MZ for more than one bullet and range.  That said, I can also set it up for more than one distance with one size bullet and see how other sizes shoot at those settings.

I love the MZ and you have several options.  Put the MZ on the rifle you will use the most.
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I have both the Kahles and the AV Swarovski and there is not much optical difference between them.  UF gave you good advice on the Kahles MZ feature.  I do not think that you can go wrong with either scope on either rifle actually.
 
I use my Kahles scopes and Swarovski AV interchangeably as far as optical quality is concerned.  My Sako 85 has a Kahles 3-9x42 TDS scope on it and I have been very happy with it.
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OK, I mounted the Kahles on the Sako last night. I was going to go play with it at the range today, but rain torpedoed my plans. I will zero it at 100 using cheapo Prvi ball then try various loads for accuracy. I have high hopes for Hornady's relatively new Superformance 140gr SST load. If it groups well, I'll adjust the 100y zero to that and then zero the remaining MZ points with it at 200-300-400-500. I'd probably make that every 50y except for a great illustrated thread on othis sight about the MZ which pointed out how you can interpolate between the MZ points. Then I guess I need a laser rangefinder if I'm not going to just shoot KD. I'd like to get a pair of binoculars with the rangefinder built in, but that's another thread in another part of the board.
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I tend to think the best use of a multi zero is to set each mark for a different know distance using only one ammo in the rifle. 
What weight bullet works best depends on the twist of the barrel once you know the twist you should know what general weight bullets to try.   
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Originally posted by Urimaginaryfrnd Urimaginaryfrnd wrote:

I tend to think the best use of a multi zero is to set each mark for a different know distance using only one ammo in the rifle. 
What weight bullet works best depends on the twist of the barrel once you know the twist you should know what general weight bullets to try.   
 
The Sako has a 1:8 twist.  How do I tell what bullet weight goes best? 
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With the 1:8 twist, you can use up to the 160 gr bullets and they should stabilize well.  But if you're looking for faster and flatter for longer ranges, the 130 and 140 gr bullets may be better suited.
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This chart is the first thread under "RELOADING AND BALISTICS"

BULLET WEIGHT / CALIBER / TWIST RATE CHART

Grain/Cal.172.204.224.243.257.264.277.284.308.338.358
17-209-10
2510
30912
33 12
35 12
37 VLD6
40 12
50-52 914
55 12
60 12
68-69 9,1013,14
75 9 14
80 8
85 7121212
90 710
100 1010 1214
105-107 8
120 1010 1215,16
130 10 14
140 91010
150 14
140-160 8101012,13
150-168 911,12,13
150-180 10,11,12
160 9
175 9
180 10,11,12
200 10,1110,1212,16
220 10
225 10,1212,16
240-250 101012
300 1012


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Cool - looks hopeful for the 140gr Superformance load. I have some on order so hopefully I'll know soon.  Thanks!
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