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So I'm considering buying another scope for a hunting rifle and basically just to play with. I want something that optically is good, tracks well, but most importantly of them all, I want something that will hold zero through some abuse, and not fail on me in the field. That's the most important with the second most important being optical clarity. I have a Burris Fullfield II 3-9x40mm right now and love it. I would love to have another one, but I'm wondering if I'd like the Vipers a lot more.

So with both being on sale right now I'm trying to decide between a few of them.
http://swfa.com/Burris-35-10x50-Fullfield-II-Rifle-Scope-P10986.aspx

That Burris FFII 3.5-10x50 was my first choice, but I see I can still get the Viper 3.5-10x50 on clearance at some places for the same price. I like the reticle better on the Burris, but Vortex has the famous customer service. Then I'm wondering if the Viper is just going to blow the Burris away in glass quality and low light performance or if it will basically be a wash?

I also was looking at the Burris FFII 4-14x42, but it looks like they are sold out of that now.

So what's the best one to go with?
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Me personally, I like the no BS warranty of the Vortex if it was ever needed.  Never heard much about burris CS, don't know if thats a good thing or a bad thing.  On the flip side of that, you have a burris, you know what to expect.  The Viper is on par with Bushnell elite 4200 glass so if you can compare that.  I've not looked through the Fullfield II you have so I can't compare myself.
 
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Another thing is while the vortex has target turrets that are covered it looks like the FFII is standard size caps and may be less of a burden on catching things while stalking.  If you pack your gun a lot the larger turret covers may prove to be a pain but I couldn't see it being to big an issue though.


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If I am in brush that is gonna hang up on my scope turret covers, well, then I need to get the hell out of there!!!!     
 
 
 
 
 
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Get one of the Burris Euro Diamond scopes with possilock that are on clearance.  They will hold zero very well with that added spring in there. 

I just got one of the 1.5-6x40 last week and it looks as good as my Viper, 4200, and Accupoint, glass wise.  The reticle is very heavy, so it should be great for low light and getting on target quickly.  I bought it for my 6.8spc AR. 
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Originally posted by supertool73 supertool73 wrote:

Get one of the Burris Euro Diamond scopes with possilock that are on clearance.  They will hold zero very well with that added spring in there. 

I just got one of the 1.5-6x40 last week and it looks as good as my Viper, 4200, and Accupoint, glass wise.  The reticle is very heavy, so it should be great for low light and getting on target quickly.  I bought it for my 6.8spc AR. 

+1  That is going to be a good scope. You don't have to use the posi-lock.  I have a Black Diamond with the posi-lock on my 300 Win Mag, and don't use the lock, and have never had it lose its zero.  It is held in place by springs like a normal scope.  The posi-lock just makes it so there is no movement period.  Just make sure you unlock it before adjusting or you could break something.
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Having both a Burris Fullfield II and Vortex Viper, I would give the edge on glass to the viper.  Burris Fullfield was not bad at all, and everything worked good, but think image is better on the Viper.  For the same price, id probably buy the Viper.
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Is there a big difference between the FFII and the Viper? Since you own both I figured you'd know if it was a big difference in glass quality or a small one?
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I also own both.. 3-9x40 FFII and 2-7x32 viper. just this weekend I had the oppurtunity to hunt with them side by side right up until dark, and misting rain, off and on. and IMHO, while you will never hear me say a negative word about the burris FFII... ( it has been a stellar performer for me for alot of years, and I own several ) It was out performed optically speaking, by the viper. I dont know if the viper will prove to be as tough as my FFII's have been, but I have no reason to suspect otherwise. both scopes were absolutely flawless on this hunt and both were usable until the very last light... but the viper was clearer, and brighter, by a noticeable margin to both mine and my 16 year old son's eyes.
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Yes, agree with above.  Burris Fullfield was a bit less clear, enough to notice, but during daylight hunts probably not enough to make a difference at all.  Same money, Vortex....half the money...Burris Fullfield..........in between......up to you :)
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Thanks guys. So since you guys are saying that the Vortex is clearer and brighter, is this something where you could hunt a bit longer with, or is it something where the Viper is just clearer, but becomes unusable around the same time of the FFII? Either way, I'm leaning heavily towards the Viper as it sounds like the better choice here.

One other scope I'd like to ask about is the older Burris Signatures. How are they? I'm trying to sell a Leupold VX-II I have and it's what was going to fund the new scope purchase if I did get a new scope. I've not gotten as many offers on the VX-II as I thought I would, but I got a trade offer today of a guy wanting to trade one of the older Signature scopes in 3.5-10x40. How do these compare to the Vipers? I'm wondering if I should trade, or just put the VX-II on eBay and sell it. I really don't have a gun to put a scope on right now either, so I will probably either replace my Nikon if I do get one, or keep it until I have a gun that does need one. I just hate to pass up these stellar clearance prices which is why I'm thinking maybe I should buy one now.


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I still haven't bought anything, but I did sell my VX-II finally. I'm just undecided on what I want. I'm still considering these two as well as now considering the Burris FFII in 4-14x42. I really would like the extra power on the FFII, plus it's $50 cheaper than the Vortex, but I'm not sure if I want to go with the glass of the FFII when I could get better glass in the Viper and a better warranty. Any opinions on this? Will I be able to hunt longer in the evenings, and earlier in the mornings with the Viper over the FFII in 4-14x42? I also kind of want to try the 50mm objective which is why I'm leaning towards the Viper, but I'm still undecided. 
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Slow... I also have a Burris FFII 4.5-14x42. I can tell you that is one awesome scope.
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Originally posted by tman1965 tman1965 wrote:

Slow... I also have a Burris FFII 4.5-14x42. I can tell you that is one awesome scope.
I'm actually leaning towards it just because I know I love my FFII, and after having a higher powered scope, I like it better than the 3-9. While I don't normally use over 6-7 times hunting, I like high magnification when target shooting and with a scope like that I can have both.

At the same time, I'm wondering if I'm going to wish I'd gotten the 50mm objective though so that brings me back looking at the Viper. I want something that's clear, but also decent in low light even if I want to leave it on 5-6 power. I will be replacing a Nikon Prostaff 3-9x40 with whichever one I get, so either should be a big improvement.


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I have a 4.5 - 14 Burris FF11 and they work fine IMHO. If they still have any left on the Burris closeout, I would buy one!
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The deals on burris are very nice.
 
you might also consider Nikons...I think they are a lot of scope for the money and my friend uses one...and him having Nikon's is the ultimate on how much abuse can something take!  It makes me want to cry the way he hammers them.
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