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Greetings,

   I've been going through many posts and web sites and think I've narrowed it down.  I'm looking for the BEST scope to put on my new Savage Mdl 116 FCSAK (synthetic stock w/ stainless bull, fluted barrel, w/ adjustable port) in the 300 Win Mag.

 

   I'm looking at the following scopes:

 

Zeiss Conquest 4.5x-14x-44mm or 50mm

 

Burris Black Diamond 4x-16x-50mm

 

Bushnell Elite 4200 4x-16x-50mm

 

   I'm looking for the best all round scope concerning Clarity, Low Light, sufficient eye-relief, duarability, and warranty.  I hunt mostly deer and hogs in Texas, but also want something that will do the job next time I go out of state for Elk or other large game.

 

I looked at the Leupold VXIII and the Nikon Monach, but all three of the above seemed to be brighter in store light.  I haven't had a chnce to look through them in real outside low light.  Swarovski is a little high as are a couple of the other scopes.  Trying to keep it at under the $700 range.  Will welcome any and all suggestions.  Have a great evening and even better tomorrow.

 

 

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Congratulations on the 116.  You will really like it.  I have one in  338 Win Mag and have an older Bausch Lomb Elite (Bushnell took over the Elite line)  mounted on it and have hunted 6-7 years with it in Alaska.  It has been through some harsh hunting conditions on Kodiak and has NEVER let me down.  I have a 110 Savage in 300 WSM  with a Leupold VXII and like the Elite far better, both used hunting on Kodiak.  I have thought about getting a  newer Elite but can't really justify it as of yet for the scope is so good.  I re scoped my Savage 110 7mm Rem Mag from a Weaver to a Nikon this summer and really like the Nikon too.  Might want to look at the Nikon again as it appears pretty comparable to ones you are looking at with my old eyes.  I am trying to figure out scope myself for a new 25-06 and have been debating between Burris, Zeiss, Nikon and the Elite.  Maybe time to try something new! :)  I am not sure why you want the 50 mm Objective because of the extra weight, especially if you are thinking of humping it up mountains after elk.  I don't think there is much advantage if any in most field situations you would be in with a 50 MM objective.

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Radone,

 

   Your'e the second one that has mentioned the extra weight on the 50mm obj.  It is a difference of about 3 oz between the 40mm and 50mm.  Is that significant enough to discount the extra light gathering.  By far, the majority of my hunting is from permanent ground blinds or tree stands.  I may get an out of state hunt every couple of years.  I'm trying to decide if the Zeiss optics are worth the extra cost over the Elite 4200, as both seemed pretty close on clarity (in a store of course).  Thanks for your reply.

 

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Mark,

 

There are far smarter people here who discuss 40mm vs 50mm objectives when it comes light gathering etc but I have found that hiking up mountains, hills or what ever, as I get older the lighter I want my rifle, pack etc as over the course of a hunt it seems like those extra ounces on a scope start to feel like pounds.  With you doing most of your hunting from blinds and not doing a lot of hiking and stalking, that probably doesn't make much difference at all and  by all means the 50 mm would be fine.  I am kind of like you, have really liked the Zeiss.  Another scope that I looked at was the Meostar which was pretty impressive.  The reality is that I think that any scope you are looking at in the class is going to be great.  I have had lots of different scopes over the years I have hunted and find that most mid to upper range scopes are very good and personal preference is only big difference in the end.

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I don't believe that a 50mm objective is necessary for most hunting applications. Of the three scopes you mentioned, it would be a toseup between the Elite and the Conquest.
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Greetings,

 

Appreciate all of the feed back and suggestions I received.  Thought I'd pass on that I finally decided on my scope.  I went with a Zeiss Conquest 4.5x - 14x - 50mm.  I looked through it outside on an overcast day and was looking into a dark garage that I couldn't see into with my unaided eyes.  I looked through the scope and could see a roll-a-round tool chest and could see the drawers, wheels and all the details plus other items in the garage.  That coupled with the lifetime transferable warranty sold me on the Zeiss.  I seriously thought about the Bushnell Elite 4200, but their 1 year no questions asked warranty did not meet my desires.  I hope to get out to the range next Sunday to sight it in and fire a few rounds through my new 300 win mag.  Will let you know the results. LandShark

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What's not to like about a 1 year no questions asked return or refund. Nobody steps up to the plate like that. That is on top of their full lifetime guarantee.
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Roy,

 

   I could never find anything that said Bushnell had a full lifetime gurantee.  If they have one, they sure don't advertise it.

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You are on the right track the 4.5-14 X50 is an excellent choice however Mypick would be the Leupold Long Range version with the 30mm tube because it has 1000MOA internal adjustment. Try that with any of the others. Not important at 300yds but at 600yds on out it is important. 
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