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I'm interested in buying a Minox off the Samplelist and need some opinions.  There are so many good choices, I'm having a hard time deciding which one to get!  My first choice was the ZA3 with #4 reticle because its 199, but for 259 or 269 there are a few ZA5 models.  Would it be worth the extra ~60 for a ZA5 2-10 than the ZA3 3-9?  The scope will be on my only rifle, a Marlin XL7 30.06 and will be used for target shooting year round and hunting whitetail in Missouri.  Also, which diameter objective would be better, 40 or 50 since they are the same price in ZA5?  I'm going to go with Talley one piece rings.
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both of them look pretty good to me. right now my only minox is a ZA5 1.5-8x 32 with german #4.

lots of people around here seem to like the 40mm for lower mounting on a bolt gun.

on an AR-15 either will do as it is easy to get a 1 piece mount to clear a 50mm.

i have been eyeing the 3-9x50 for the longest time but can't decide if i want a ZA5 plex or ZA3 #4 either.

and to make it worse one is a plex and another is #4--

i sort of think the 2-10x does give you more of a range on the bottom and the top which is good but i'll bet it has a tighter eye box sweet spot than a 3-9x does  so it is a sort of trade off i think.

some people don't like the excessive "lash" in the minox adjustments turrets.

it that little bit of slack don't seem to bother anything to me , the clicks on mine seen very positive and solid after you take up the lash.  for some   that is a peeve.

i would say take some measurements  the minox is pretty compact except for that big 40/50mm bell on the front-- a 50mm is going to be a tad taller and require higher rings--

if the minox aint your bag-- they have all kinds of really nice scopes on the sample list -- most of the time they add a bunch before the weekend.

just the other weekend  they had 3-9x40 a viper for $209 -- i had to bite myself to keep from buying it--LOL








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The design of the 3X erector gives a slight better view over the 5X erector.  It is really up to which you prefer for your specific setup. Both are excellent scopes. On an AR, I would want the wider mag range for the increased field of view at the lower magnification range, while still having the increased magnification when needed for more versatility.
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This is for a bolt gun, not an AR, don't know how that came up lol.  How does the 3x erector give a better sight picture?

I'm leaning towards the ZA3 3-9x50 with #4 reticle because it is cheaper and also better in low light when hunting, probably well past legal shooting times with the #4 and 50mm objective- not that I would shoot past legal times.  So, how would the #4 reticle be for target shooting compared to the minoplex, are the cross hairs any thicker until they hit the posts?
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the minox #4 has wide posts and they narrow to a cross hair pretty quick.

looks like a early WW2 gunsite off a spitfire or hurricane--


the minox #4 -- has a extra wide open area compared to other #4s ,

 i like it better than a thin plex but i prefer a more conventional #4 myself.

there are some actual picks of the set up here in the minox review section somewhere.
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I'm very happy with my ZA 3-9x50 so far. Got it for $219 and it performs much better than the price suggests. I went with the bdc reticle and have a cheat sheet with holdovers out to 650y.
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my 5x ZA5 is a little on the tight side on the eye box , not so bad as to be a huge problem, it just ain't as forgiving and easy as my vipers or diamondbacks.

you have to have you head and eye trained to use it , it has to be set up precisely. and the FOV is rather narrow compared to the vortex's in about the same mag range.

sort of like the old m-16 a1 peep sights where you had to keep that nose on the charging handle.

the distance from your eye to the scope and the position of the scope has to be on the $$$ to get the best out out of it.

sort of a trade off.  this minox ZA5 1.5-8x 32  is more tuned up for higher power ranges, wide mag range,  an long eye relief.

to get this they gave up some of the eye box and had to settle for a more critical eye position, and gave up some FOV.


generally speaking in optics their aint no free lunch and even some of the very pricy scopes show some of these same tradeoffs.  i like mine well enough to not send it back and i am a bit picky about scopes.

i suspect that the 3-9x ZA3s would be more like the vortexes --now i don't KNOW this as i don't have a ZA3 yet--

most folks with the 3-9x ZA3s seem happy.

another thing is on the ZA5 is it is a rather small scope , only 32mm a larger glass like a 40mm or 50mm might ease up a little --give a little more  on the tight eye box /positioning and so on. and i say this i haven't ran a 50mm or 40mm ZA either so YMMV-- just a suspicion of mine anyway.

and take into account i am running mostly AR-15s and the old AR-15 is rather funny when it comes to scopes anyway--

 the ZA5 1.5-8X 32 would have been close to  the perfect AR 15 scope provided they reduced the eye relief to 3.5" opened up the FOV some and added a standard #4 and maybe a little illumination for dark and near dark shooting. it was made for high power bolt actions so it ain't the perfect fit on the ar-- though it is still use full.

a bolt gun might have less problems or more considering what kind of mounting set up you have.

the ZAs are all high end scopes and have good glass if it is the best depends on what you require for it to do.




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Good glass yes,high end doubtful.Please explain what you mean by high end scope,thanks.
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Forgot to mention I own 2 Minox scopes,sorry but they don't compare with my Alpha scopes..........They are great for what you pay but they are far from extraordinary.
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Thank you everyone for the input!  The scope on my 30.06 right now is just some cheap no name brand 3-9x40 that came on it from the factory.  It is absolute trash, and won't hold zero, and I haven't had the funds for a good scope.  I haven't shot the rifle in probably over a year because of this..  I am no expert in optics or rifles or anything, I'm only 19.

Everyone says that the glass is on par with a Conquest and that the warranty from Minox is great, and for $199 for the 3-9x50 with #4 that is the best scope I can get for that money that I've found.  If you know of anything better for $200 or the whereabouts then please, enlighten me.  I can't afford a Conquest.  It's going to be either a Minox or Vortex Diamondback (best scope for ~200), in which case the Minox far outshines the Diamondback, from what I have read- and considering the $500 to $200 price tag difference.

I'll be ordering the Minox this week with new one piece Talley rings for the Marlin XL7 30.06 and let everyone know how I like it.  Though I'm sure compared to the crap scope on it now, I won't have complaints.
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I'm not sure if you already bought a scope or not, but the Minox should be an awesome buy.
I always tend to think that a 40mm objective has more pro's than the 50mm one, giving up very little light transmission if it is good glass. You would need to mount the 50mm higher, affecting cheekweld.
a #4 reticle would be great for dark woods.


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