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Gearing up for a probable trip to Alaska--main objective is a moose--
3 main areas--1)waterproof/waterproof, and waterproof
                    2) good magnification range--up to 45 or 60 with ability to add camera adapter
                    ( current binos are Zen Ray EDII's)
                    3) great desire to stay under 650 in price
I have looked through Bushnell excursion, Nikon ProStaff, Vortex (not the razor) and Leupold--
I don't wear glasses--tripod will be used.
thoughts?
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I would suggets this, but you would still need a tripod and an eyepiece ($150 for tipod, and $100-200 for eyepiece).
 
Angled scope will need less tripod, and make for a lighter package; however, angled scopes are godd for use standing, not good for use prone.
 
You don't need 60x power to hunt moose. Even the best scopes in the world are not at their best at 60x.  
 
Another option would be a Celestron Regal F-ED 65mm scope with 16x-48x zoom. It costs less than the Pentax, and is just as good. Probably it is the best value in spotting scopes today.
 
I would not buy a large scope for hunting. I would buy a small (50-65mm) scope for hunting, angled, and a good and light tripod, with a 20x or 30x wide angle eyepiece.
 
Bushnell, Brunton, Minox, Leupold, Kowa, and Nikon make/sell good small scopes.
The best of them is the Nikon 50mm ED with the wide angle 20x eyepiece. I use it for hunting. 
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any other thoughts on the celestron?  
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Given the brutal weather that can be had up there, I'd search high and low for a good used Leupold GR 15-45x60.  It's probably the toughest spotter made and optics are plenty good enough.  You don't have to have HD and all that fancy stuff.
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I agree with JGRaider.  The classic Leupold GR 12-40 is a great, durable, compact, lightweight scope with real resolution power.  I have seen several used ones in your price range.  I also really like the optical performance of the Nikon ED50, but don't know how durable it is.
 
Sounds like an awesome trip!
 
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I hope all works out!  My guide friend uses the compact GR and has for about 3 years--45 days each time in Alaska--he will hunt Dall in the Brooks this August and that's his primary spotter--his 10x42 EL's aren't bad either!
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Originally posted by Bitterroot Bulls Bitterroot Bulls wrote:

I agree with JGRaider.  The classic Leupold GR 12-40 is a great, durable, compact, lightweight scope with real resolution power.  I have seen several used ones in your price range.  I also really like the optical performance of the Nikon ED50, but don't know how durable it is.
 
Sounds like an awesome trip!
 
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I agree with Bitteroot Bulls.
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how do these compare?
http://swfa.com/Bushnell-15-45x60-Excursion-FLP-Spotting-Scope-P44540.aspx
vs the leupold 12-40x60 non hd?
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Let me just clarify here that the Leupold Golden Ring scope mentioned is actually a 12-40x60 not a 15-45x60. The difference may or may not matter, but if you're going to buy one, you better know exactly what it really is.  I do agree that this is a very fine choice for a hunting scope. It will, however, cost you more than your under-$650 budget as will the Nikon ED50 that was mentioned (which is also a great scope.)

For a "full size" spotter, I would recommend you look carefully for the Pentax that anweis mentioned.  It will stretch (or even maybe break) your budget, but it will give you fantastic service.

The Bushnell Excursions are of the same basic type as that Leupold and are significantly less expensive.  The 15-45x60 would probably be your best bet for an Alaskan moose hunt and it sells for around $365 ($300 if you get the one without the  mil-dot reticle).  It's pretty easy to see why too as image quality around the outer 1/3 edge of the FoV really suffers in the Bushnell.  This isn't a huge problem as the FoV is so wide to begin with, but it is definitely noticeable. The big problem with the Excursion is that I don't know of anyone who has actually put one through any really tough hunting conditions so, I don't know how well they will hold up.

For a compact, tough-as-nails scope the 15-30x50 Leupold Gold Ring Compact spotter is a great little scope.  The Nikon ED50 is just a hair better optically and a smidgen lighter, but the Leupold will only set you back $400 and leave you enough for a good tripod.  There is not adapter to use it for photography, however.   I have managed to get some pretty good pictures just holding a small digital camera up to the eyepiece of mine - though I admit, this is definitely not ideal. 



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Originally posted by SChunter SChunter wrote:

how do these compare?
http://swfa.com/Bushnell-15-45x60-Excursion-FLP-Spotting-Scope-P44540.aspx
vs the leupold 12-40x60 non hd?

I compared these side by side last summer.  I could not tell any difference between the two, so my buddy bought the Excursion.  I'd say the GR HD has a better view than the excursion but cost 3-4 times more.  
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that has been my experience with the two as well.  I did like the compact and for the money, it's pretty good--the lack of camera adapter is a drawback!

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