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I am going to unload a couple of my rifles that I simply will never be able to use for their intended purpose ( Elk rifles I bought for a hunt that an untimely car accident has put an end to )  to make room for a new addition. I can't seem to make up my mind which one to get and looking for some input on a choice . The contenders :
 
1) 308 AR style rifle .. I have 2 other AR's ( 223 and 7.62x39) that I enjoy - which is an upside , I familiar with the workings and the controls are easy to use ..But that same familiarity makes this choice just a touch old hat .
 
2) M1A - Stainless "loaded" edition . I used to have a Chinese copy that actually shot pretty well . I am drawn to the heritage ,& would only consider a Springfield this time around . Not as edgy as today's more modern choices , but then again neither am  I.
 
 
3) PTR-91 copy of HK's 308 rifle.. durable and accurate ..  I haven't given one a try before, but have read good things.
 
 
so - which one ???? OR something else ?? Loco


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m1a no doubt!

might as well put cheap's name under mine in that column too!
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I like the AR 308 idea..... You could do something different with this one. Different than what you did with the others. Besides, you can never have too many of this type of rifle. Why not get one in 338 Rem? DPMS makes a stout and accurate platform. Get the longer barrel, and the light weight composite front tube. The possibilities are so many. 
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Originally posted by pyro6999 pyro6999 wrote:

m1a no doubt!

might as well put cheap's name under mine in that column too!
 
Uh....what he said.  Wink
 
M1A for the win!!
Just for kick ass cool factor, if nothing else.  
 
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Another vote for the M1A.  Thunbs Up
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And yet another vote for the Springfield M1a !
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M1A has my vote....followed by the AR 
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I posted a similar question a few weeks ago and got a lot more recommendations for the AR-10.
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did you get one ?
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I own choices 1 and 2.  #1 is a box full of bipolar, ADD, ADHD, sczhitzoid quirks.
Definitley the M1A.
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Originally posted by cheaptrick cheaptrick wrote:



Excellent


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As an owner of an HK 91 for over thirty years I think that clone is an abomination. An M4 type collapsible stock, that no doubt contains the recoil spring required for the roller lock mechanism, looks gross. That thing is wrong. Even if a clone, get one with the original paratrooper stock.
The AR .308 and the M1A are very nice. If it's a good one like a Knight, I choose the AR in a nanosecond.
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A good friend of mine used to own an original HK91 back in the day. He's still kicking himself for selling it and I don't blame him; they've banned here since around '89.






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The photo was just a sample-- Atlantic Guns here in here in Maryland has a wide selection . I haggled with a guy on a  Springfield SAR 8 just a few months ago at a show .It seemed well put together , but he wouldn't budge off of $1600 ( he's had it since new and it had seen 300 + rounds ).

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The PTR 91 is actually a well-made rifle, but I agree, put on the HK style stock and make a paper weight out of that M-4 style stock. It belongs on an AR only.
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So is the PTR91 a clone or updated version of the original HK91?
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I've has two of the H&K 91 and did not like either of them they would both fail with some regularity but knowing what I know now I would have adjusted the gas system more to get them running better.  I spend a year trying to get my first M1a reliable because I had an idiot gunsmith do a trigger job then it would double then I found a gunsmith who worked for Springfield and its running right.  The M1a just feel right.  I have the DPMS version but have altered it cutting the barrel back to 20 and having it fluted its a heavy SOB.  I have always liked the feel of the FN FAL it is one of those guns that just feels right.  The Gallil is really the best of the lot as it uses the AK type gas system.  Given what you are likely to find I'd stay with the M1a and I will say that if you intend to scope it just be aware that it will be a major pain.
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The PTR-91F is a modern, American-manufactured civilian semi automatic version of the Heckler and Koch G3 rifle, made by PTR 91 Inc. (formerly JLD Enterprises) of Unionville, Connecticut.

The weapon is relatively new to the market, and began production during the assault weapons ban of 1994, which expired in 2004. The assault weapons ban prohibited certain cosmetic features, many of which were included on the HK91, meaning that it could no longer be manufactured and sold to the US civilian market in its original configuration. The ban compliant PTR-91 rifles did not have a threaded muzzle for flash hiders, no bayonet lug, and they had to be sold with fixed stocks and 10-round (or less)magazines. Furthermore, the German-made HK91 was specifically prohibited from importation under the 1989 Import Ban. Subsequently Heckler and Koch ceased manufacture of the semi-automatic HK91, and since then civilian versions of the G3 have increased in collector value. The PTR-91F filled the void, as the two rifles are almost identical, even being manufactured from the same blue prints and made on the same machinery that was used under license from Heckler & Koch[1][2] by the Portuguese company FMP to make the M/963 rifle. The PTR-91 also makes use of many G3 parts from demilitarized H&K and FMP rifles. All parts between the HK-91 and the PTR-91 are interchangeable.

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The AR family would seem to be the easiest to mount a scope on

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Thanks Martin.

From what I remember the "original" HK91 was a fairly heavy rifle but it was definitely fun to shoot. The open sight system was real nice as well. Bummer for my buddy!!! Sad
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