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Looking for opinions of these 2 scopes for a Ruger M77 RSI in 308 WIN that will primarily be used for hunting thick woods in Central and East Tennessee.

- Burris Euro Diamond 1.5-6x40 with German 3P#4 E-Dot reticle
- Nikon Monarch Gold 1.5-6x42 with German #4 reticle

I like the idea of the illuminated dot on the Burris.  I found a review by Randy Wakeman
where he raved about the Burris 1.5-6x40 E-Dot for deep woods hunting and named it his choice for the best hunting scope of 2010.  Based on some of his other reviews, Mr. Wakeman seems to be a pretty big fan of Burris optics. 

However, I also stumbled upon an established optics site which claims objectivity and rates Burris below the 6 other major brands they sell in the categories of Glass, Housing, Quality Control, Warranty Service and Value.  I
n the $600 - $750 range,  the Monarch Gold was rated higher than the Euro Diamond in every category except Warranty Service.  In the categories of Glass, Quality Control and Value the Monarch Gold was rated significantly higher (4-stars for the Nikon vs 2-stars for the Burris).

Now, those ratings were based on a price of $629 for the Burris and $565 for the Nikon.  Both of those scopes can now be found new for $499.  The Nikon does not have an illuminated dot, which is something I've never used.  I think an illuminated dot would be nice to have in the deep woods near the beginning and end of shooting light, so that's the main thing that attracts me to the Burris.  However, the better glass that the Nikon reportedly has could make up for it not having an illuminated dot.  I've also considered the new Leupold VX-R 2-7x33 and another Viper 2-7x32 (I have two of them), but I think I would like the larger objective that the Burris and Nikon both provide. 

So, if it was your $500 would you go with the Burris or the Nikon or another "tweener" that I haven't considered?



  
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Minox 1.5-8X32 might be worth a look.
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That Hawke looks interesting.  I've never heard of or seen a Hawke scope.  It's a bit heavy, but otherwise it seems like what I'm looking for and the price is nice.  Is it made in China?
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I have the BUrris Euro.  Mine does not have the dot though.  It is a real nice scope, glass is quite good and the reticle is very thick which helps in the speed and low light department.  
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I like the 1.5-6 power range.  Hopefully more manufacturers will jump on that bandwagon...
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Unfortunately I think more manufacturers are jumping off the 1.5-6 bandwagon rather than on it.

Does anyone know if the Hawke Endurance line is made in China?  Judging by the price, I'm guessing it is.  It is not easy to find information on Hawke scopes.  I couldn't even find a picture of the 1.5-6x42 on their website. 

I think I'm back to trying to decide between the Burris and the Nikon.  Too many unknowns for me with Hawke.
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hmm, that would be an interesting comparison... nikon vs burris vs minox. all three are high end glass. cs dept with nikon and burris are questionable.
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Congrats Hunter, I see you just made the 20k post club ExcellentExcellent
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thanks, more proof i have no life in the winter.Roll on Floor Laughing
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"...in the winter?"Wink

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another option should be available very soon
Meopta is introducing one, should be great glass and the illumination done right for very low light use.

Personally, I have not had good luck with Burris ill ret scopes, at least the digital switch ones (including the 1.5-6 Euro dot)

I would rather have very good glass and a bold #4 reticle than a so so glass scope with an illuminated reticle.
That includes using for hog hunting at night..

Another good option right now is the Leupold Firedot 2-7
very impressed with it's glass for the price range and the illumination is done right for really low light use.






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A 1.5-6 from Meopta would be sweet. What size objective? I really want a 40 or 42, which is why I haven't already pulled the trigger on the Minox or VX-R.
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Originally posted by RifleDude RifleDude wrote:

"...in the winter?"Wink

Since they get snow up there on/near the 4th of July, one might argue that it's almost always winter up there.
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The Hawke is made in China, but it's pretty much the best of the Chinese glass. I like mine. 

If I could afford it I'd give up a little top end and get the 1-4 SS HD 



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40 or 42
we should have on in to test in a few weeks
do a search here.. I posted some info on it
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Originally posted by Alan Robertson Alan Robertson wrote:

Originally posted by RifleDude RifleDude wrote:

"...in the winter?"Wink

Since they get snow up there on/near the 4th of July, one might argue that it's almost always winter up there.
 
Actually, that was geared toward Pyro's implication that he "had no life" only in the winter, and I was reminding him that the evidence suggests this state may not be confined just to the winter time. 
 
I pick on him all the time, so he knows I was just ribbin' him.
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Originally posted by Alan Robertson Alan Robertson wrote:

Originally posted by RifleDude RifleDude wrote:

"...in the winter?"Wink

Since they get snow up there on/near the 4th of July, one might argue that it's almost always winter up there.

its way worse where i grew up in the mountains of wyoming. i saw snow on the 4th of july more years than one.
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Originally posted by ccoker ccoker wrote:

40 or 42we should have on in to test in a few weeksdo a search here.. I posted some info on it



I found the info you posted on the Meostar 1.5-6. I am definitely going to wait and check that one out. It sounds like it's going to be exactly what I'm looking for. Thanks for mentioning it.
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Originally posted by pyro6999 pyro6999 wrote:

Originally posted by Alan Robertson Alan Robertson wrote:

Originally posted by RifleDude RifleDude wrote:

"...in the winter?"Wink

Since they get snow up there on/near the 4th of July, one might argue that it's almost always winter up there.

its way worse where i grew up in the mountains of wyoming. i saw snow on the 4th of july more years than one.
 
Big Piney has 11 months of winter and 1 month of crappy snowmobiling.
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Originally posted by WYcoyote WYcoyote wrote:

Originally posted by pyro6999 pyro6999 wrote:

Originally posted by Alan Robertson Alan Robertson wrote:

Originally posted by RifleDude RifleDude wrote:

"...in the winter?"Wink

Since they get snow up there on/near the 4th of July, one might argue that it's almost always winter up there.

its way worse where i grew up in the mountains of wyoming. i saw snow on the 4th of july more years than one.
 
Big Piney has 11 months of winter and 1 month of crappy snowmobiling.

amen to thatExcellent there's no place like home
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Originally posted by Shenko Shenko wrote:

Minox 1.5-8X32 might be worth a look.
 
Gotta agree with this.  A 40mm or 42mm scope is gonna be bulky on a small rifle like a Ruger 77 RSI.  My personal Ruger 77 RSI in .308 wears a Nikon Monarch 2x7x32.
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