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  300 win mag.

 

Alright I have bought

rem brass,

nosler bt 180, 

federal primers 215 (i think)

and H4831SC.

 

What would be a good starting point? Also what would be the maximum load for this?

The place I bought it from wasnít full of information but suggested to start at 75gr

Can I get some recommendations on this?



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Dale,

i have looked at the site and have an idea of what i wanted but i guess what i'm looking for is has anyone used this setup and have any tips for me.

 

i know i have seen 1000's of pages on this topic on the net but one says this and one say that.

 

on one sit one person said there reload was maxed out and then next person said thats there staring point.

so was looking to maybe get out of the comfustion.

 

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in the middle of the min. and max given by hod, is usually a good place to start.
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i think the load i ended up with was 73 grains of imr 4831
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Pyro,

I think thatís where I will start. I know allot of information saying  that 73gr is a hot load but then allot of it says it is not a hot load.

I called a place that all they do is reloads and they told me to start at 75gr.I think Iím going to try 74gr and see what happens.

 

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here is something to remember that any published data in manuals  or on powder companies web sites is more than likely what i would call a "lawyer load" meaning they put a number as maximum so some idiot doesnt exceed it and hurt himself and sue the company and ruin it for the rest of us, but if you exceed the published maximum make sure to inspect your brass and dont go hog wild, i.e. dont look at a maximum and try to go 5-10 grains past it right away, work those load up carefully and slowly, check for obvious signs of excessive pressure, strecthing, cracking, flattened primers are good indicators i myself havent ever experienced better accuracy buy exceeding maximum published loads in anything, to me its a waste of powder and just adds more stress to the equipment.
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Thanks Pyro.

 I going to do a batch at 75gr og the h4831sc and see how it a all reacts from there.

 

Have you ever use that powder.i was going to get the imr4350 but the guy told me this powder was better.

 

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4831 is some really great stuff for the 300's also reloader 19 and reloader 22 are supposed to be very good i just picked up a pound of reloader 19 for my 300wsm and if i get a chance to shoot this weekend i will let you know how it preforms.i have used 4831 for years now mostly in my dad's 30-06 and is the powder of choice for my 300winmag but its a fairly versitile powder, be prepared to buy a couple of pounds at a time if you like it, cause the down side of the sutff is that almost anything you load it in will require more powder than any other powder you could load for a given caliber. i myself use imr 4831 but the hodgdon 4831ssc is pretty much the same thing.
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the hodgdon online says that 73 grains is max and its compressed, i dont know if i would try 75 to start you may not have enough room.
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Thanks pyro,

right now i bought a pound of it but i'm thinking that i might get another pound of imr to see whitch i like better.

I might do 50/50

 

About how many should a pound do ? i know it will be diferent but in general.

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Thats what i was thinking.

 

I have seen so many conflicting things with this powder that i'm not sure.and me just getting started dosen't help much ether.

 

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the main differences between imr and hodgdon is that imr's people work on the left side of the hall and hodgdon's people work on the right side of the hall, same company same plant, there are some differences in pressure levels the h's will generally have less pressure associated with there powder than imr's and also if you load at say 70 degrees and hunt in -10 degrees  some imr powder has issues with the temp difference where most h powders arent temp. sensitve. i have always used imr powder but lately i have branched out and started trying h's.
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Is there any manuals you would recommend me getting?

 

I bought the abcís of reloading. It tells how to look for pressure stress and other stuff that should help a newbie like myself

 

 

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i like the 2nd edition lee manual but its not the best it could be but i covers a lot of calibers, to tell you the truth if i had to do it over again i dont know if i would buy a manual at all, if you go to hodgdon.com and get to the online data its enough info to get you going only bad part is that some of the calibers all they give you is the maximum and you have to work backwards from there, the new sierra manual is really nice and if you get it on computer as well its even better. a little spendy but good info.
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http://www.reloadbench.com/gloss/grain.html

 this is a table that will tell you how many rounds a pound of powder will make if you load every round with a single given amount of powder. there are 7000 grains in a pound so if you load you 300 with 70 grains of powder then you would be able to load 5 boxes of 300 winmags or 100 rounds. neat little table.

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Thansk man.

Thats an interesting table.

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here is another place thats got some good info but double check with a published source some of these people load up some crazy stuff,       http://www.reloadersnest.com/  
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I have ran across loadersnest  when i googled ballistics before.and they do some strange stuff or it seens so to me anyhow.

 

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those one caliber load books are just photo copies out of another manual, and most of the information is outdated, as far as new powders on the market and new bullets as well. stuffing 80grains of anything in a 300 is to crazy for my blood
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I loaded 80 rounds with 74.5gr of  H4831SC.I used nosler BT 180's

My groups at 100 yards were all quarter size. I would shoot groups of 4 and look and then my brother with the same gun would shoot and all shots were the same grouping.

So it was a good day of testing and shooting.

Nikon 5.5-16.5x44 works great good glass nice view and very clear. And if you need to hit someone with it.It dose a nice job on a nose ask my brother he did it not once but twice.

The eye relief for me was greater than for him.

Now for the 2,3 and 400 yard test

Will tell you how it goes and post picís

Thanks

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I would buy the reloaders bible and follow the ballistics chart for powder load and all the particular technical data so you don't blow yourself up! You might want to buy a reloader too since you did not mention that you have one....and dies help a lot.....
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The reloading equipment I use is lee pace setter dies with a factory crimp die. Rock chucker single stage press. I have a lee single stage press for depriming. I use a Lyman gauge for all measuring and rcbs scales and a Lyman tumbler.

I also use a hornaday and a nosler reloading guide and info off the net.

The test load for me now is

 75g H4831sc sierra game kings  180's    60each

 75g H4831sc  Nosler bt 180's   60each

 75g H4831sc  Hornaday sst  180  60 each

I also have a friend that dose reloading for a living so i ask him things from time to time.

http://www.georgia-arms.com/index1.htm 

 

So i'm still new and learning as i go.But I think I have a good start so far.But i'm always wanting to learn more ...

 



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why do you load so many of one weight?? i load five shells of say 70gr of 4831 and then go say 73gr of 4831 and then go 75gr of 4831 then work from there.
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