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OK, Im down to these:
 
1) Bushnell 3200 5-15x50
2) Millett Buck Gold 4-16x56
3) Zeiss Conquest 4.5-14x50
 
OK I was joking with #3. Sorry, just wanted to play with the big boys for a while. Wishful thinking.  But I think numer 1 and 2 come in strong when its time to place my order. Hmmmm
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Check out the Sightron SIIs.  For the buck they're pretty good...
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check out the bushnell 3200@4200 with the firefly ret.
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sightrons sll and the big sky models are very good scopes
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Originally posted by shooter4 shooter4 wrote:

OK, Im down to these:
 
1) Bushnell 3200 5-15x50
2) Millett Buck Gold 4-16x56
3) Zeiss Conquest 4.5-14x50
 
OK I was joking with #3. Sorry, just wanted to play with the big boys for a while. Wishful thinking.  But I think numer 1 and 2 come in strong when its time to place my order. Hmmmm
 
Shooter4 I am relunctant to say much because when you get advice from some of these seasoned OT members your not going to find better guidence. I had a very set understanding of what made a good scope. And after beating my head against the wall for awhile I finally saw the light. And these guy's were paitient enough to help me get it right. If you've noticed your not getting much to work with in the 300.00 range. Try to do what I finally did. Save alittle longer or sell something that is just collecting dust and look in the 5 to 600.00 range. YOU WILL NOT REGRET IT! Then you will have a Leupold, Conquest, 4200 or something in that line. Especially when shopping the Sample list. I know what I am saying may turn you off, especially with todays economy. But if you make up your mind to get something that these guy's have tested and use themselves, you will be glad you did.
Good luck! and either way we look forward to knowing what you get.
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I agree, I feel most of these gentlemen (and ladies?) give no bullsh*t or religious opinions. Im happy to see more than one brand recomended. That is trustworthy. Yes, I have actually decided to safe a little longer and buy a bit more expensive scope. I know its always a risk to buy used but Im considering IF I find something trustworthy. Since we´ll be looking at a bit more expensive scope Im looking at the Bushnell 4200 series or even a VX-3.  But one thing is a little turnoff at the moment and that are the comments I´ve seen that the Leupold is a scope with many problems (like what??).
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I haven't read about problems with the new VX3.  What have you heard?Loco
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Right here
 
A gentleman shares his experience - "lots of problems with VX-3"
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The VX3 has been out for about 1 month.  The VX III should be similar as far as reliability goes.  I own 3 VX III's and have never had a problem of any kind if that makes you feel better.  I compete with 2 of them too.  Generally speaking VXIII's weakness is not reliabilty IMO.  In fact some custom gunmakers who make heavy recoiling African game rifles will use nothing else.
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Good to get all opinions. I fancy the VXIII (especially with fine cross and target turrets) but of course I read what you guys have to say. ThanX. But that means of course both pro´s and con´s. I just like to know why this gentleman said he had "lots" of problems with these scopes.

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I think with Leupold it's a love/hate thing. I know some guy's that there is no point talking leupold and others wouldn't have anything else. I have trusted a VXIII for a few yrs. now and I will not part with it. Yes there are better high end scopes but the cost is way up there. I can't speak for what is built today, but if they are like what I have I will stand by it with out concern. For what you have described a VXIII 3x10x50 or 4.5x14x50 should fit your adjusted budget and make you happy when you take that first low light shot. But always take an oppertunity to try something before you buy "when possible". Since you are waiting for funds to build check with friends who might have what your interested in.
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I think there's somewhat of a backlash from people who are repulsed by Leupold lovers who hold little value in other optics, some of which are superior to Leupold.  This leads to some unfair criticizm of Leupold products from what I've seen.  Athough not all of it is unfair. 
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Yeah thats the MAIN thing about all these talks. To step aside all "name-brand-religion" and just tell things as they are.  Some cant do that - but those that can usually write something that many people will take in. 
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Originally posted by shooter4 shooter4 wrote:

Good to get all opinions. I fancy the VXIII (especially with fine cross and target turrets) but of course I read what you guys have to say. ThanX. But that means of course both pro´s and con´s. I just like to know why this gentleman said he had "lots" of problems with these scopes.


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Originally posted by rifle looney rifle looney wrote:

Originally posted by shooter4 shooter4 wrote:

Good to get all opinions. I fancy the VXIII (especially with fine cross and target turrets) but of course I read what you guys have to say. ThanX. But that means of course both pro´s and con´s. I just like to know why this gentleman said he had "lots" of problems with these scopes.


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Yeah if I had several failures I'd be specific about them.  It's therapeutic.
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I like Leupold. I just don't love them.
 
 
There are other brands that work better, and cost the same or less.
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Yeah but do they come with tissue?  That out of an MRE?
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It's Uh...........Tactical Tissue?
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Haha. Guys, any idea where I can look at good used Bushnell 4200 for sale?  I prefer 50mm lense and target turrets. Thanks
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Originally posted by shooter4 shooter4 wrote:

Haha. Guys, any idea where I can look at good used Bushnell 4200 for sale?  I prefer 50mm lense and target turrets. Thanks
 
You probably won't find many used 50mm 4200's.  They haven't offered them long.  In fact used 4200's of any ilk are not very common.
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I remember seeing 6-24x50mm Bush 4200 somewhere a while ago. Looked sweet. Well its no problem. I keep on looking - I want to compare them a little better to the VXiii
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Originally posted by shooter4 shooter4 wrote:

I remember seeing 6-24x50mm Bush 4200 somewhere a while ago. Looked sweet. Well its no problem. I keep on looking - I want to compare them a little better to the VXiii
 
They seem to have the 50mm's geared a little more toward the tactical crowd.  I wish they'd offer it in more of a target scope configuration.  If they did I'd have one.  THe 6-24x40 with target dot is a very good scope for any bench game with a 24x limit. 
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Originally posted by shooter4 shooter4 wrote:

I remember seeing 6-24x50mm Bush 4200 somewhere a while ago. Looked sweet. Well its no problem. I keep on looking - I want to compare them a little better to the VXiii
 
I've heard that the 4200 is good, but if anybody believes it holds with the VXIII I want to hear about it. I would honestly be suprised. I'm talkin low light and clearity, not ideal conditions.
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Originally posted by Sgt. D Sgt. D wrote:

Originally posted by shooter4 shooter4 wrote:

I remember seeing 6-24x50mm Bush 4200 somewhere a while ago. Looked sweet. Well its no problem. I keep on looking - I want to compare them a little better to the VXiii
 
I've heard that the 4200 is good, but if anybody believes it holds with the VXIII I want to hear about it. I would honestly be suprised. I'm talkin low light and clearity, not ideal conditions.
 
I'll bite.  I own several VXIII's and like them all.  But I in no way subscribe to the dilusion that they are optically superior to a 4200.  In any light.
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I own the VXIII I have owned the 4200 Elite as well. (Still would except for thieves) The 4200 is better optically speaking. Do I still like the VXIII? Yes I do as a matter of fact. It has been a very good scope.
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