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Long time lurker, first time poster.  This is of course the inevitable, help me chose a pair of binoculars thread.  

My optics background is as an amateur astronomer, so I have looked through both good glass, as well as bad.  I hunt and backpack in Idaho, generally in open country.   Having dumped my money into larger, less portable optics, I have always made due with budget porro prism 10x50s and a set of Meade roof prism 10x32s that I got as a gift. The views in the meade's are about as good as the 10x50s, maybe a bit better. Backpacking makes me weight conscious and on any overnight trip I either go without or take the 10x32s or something even smaller.   

I am ready to step up and buy a new pair of binos.  My grandfather has a pair of 7x35s that I am in love with. I believe they are pentax, but could be B&L.  They are at least 35 years old.  They have good clarity, they are powerful enough, gather enough light and are really handy.  I would love to buy a copy of them.  However the only 7x35s on the market that I can find are really budgety, and they show it.

So I am wondering is there anything out there that I am missing?  I prefer porro prisms (they are better for astronomical viewing due to the way the prisms are put together) and I like how they fit in my hand.  My price point (see below) also leads me toward some porros.  The only things that seem to come close are the Leopold Yosemite's and the Vortex Raptors.   Neither are really 7x35s, they are either 6 or 8 power, and have smaller objective lenses (30 and 32s).  I am currently leaning toward the Raptors probably in a 8.5x32 model, but as a glasses wearer the exit pupil size of 3.7 will likely require me to remove them to really use them.  

I wanted to step back in magnification from the 10x but still have enough oomph to glass the open Idaho hills, but also be small enough that they are handy.  LocoLoco

So I am open to suggestions.  I have five little girls who absolutely love binoculars, we are awashing in "big 5 specials" and while I would love to drop the money on an alpha pair, but despite all my efforts there is no way that the little wonders wont get their hands on what I buy at least at some point, so I am not yet in a place to drop that kind of money.  I am looking at a 100-200 price point.  Though if there was an actual 7x35 with some good lenses I might spring some more.  

Thanks for the help.  
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Steinier makes 7x30s and 7x50s like you are wanting.  THey are good binos

http://swfa.com/Steiner-Binoculars-C378.aspx
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The Nikon Action Extreme 7x35 with 9.3* FOV is excellent.

http://swfa.com/Nikon-7x35-Action-Extreme-ATB-Binocular-P42214.aspx

Stan

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Easy one. Nikon action, Aculon or action ex. The last is my favorite of the bunch with plenty of eye relief and a fairly well corrected field. The other two are good but not as good as the EX.

There is also the Bushnell Excursion EX 7x36 roof and the Celestron Cabalry 7x30. All are right around the $100 price point.
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First off, welcome to OT.

The Zen Ray ZEN ED 7x36 is back on the market.  I'd go there.  Otherwise I'd go to the big auction site in the sky and search for 7x35 binoculars.  The vintage area can be a minefield, but there are some that give up nothing to anything.

You can likely find some used for sale just like grandad's.

Your five little girls will absolutely adore the Leupold Yosemite 6x30.  Better get six so you can have one too.  Smile You will be amazed at how good these are.

Actually the determiner of how well they work with glasses is eye relief, not exit pupil.  People are obsessed with lots of magnification, in many cases to their ultimate detriment.  If I handed you an unmarked 6x30 Yosemite and told you it was a 7x, I doubt you would know.  The Raptor in 6.5x is good too.  The interpupilary distance goes down to fit near set younger eyes, and the Yosemite was designed for kids.  What is important there is to get your girls something suitable for them to use, that they can use, and will use.  The Yosemite does all that.

An 8 or 8.5x version would do for the Idaho hills.

If you want to go looking for used vintage, post up, I'll give you what help I can navigating the rocks and shoals.


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Originally posted by IdahoSkies IdahoSkies wrote:

I prefer porro prisms (they are better for astronomical viewing due to the way the prisms are put together) and I like how they fit in my hand.

My price point (see below) also leads me toward some porros.
 
I am looking at a 100-200 price point.
Though if there was an actual 7x35 with some good lenses I might spring some more.  


Daniel,

You are correct about the Porro prism binoculars for "stargazing".
Roof prism binoculars, that are in the lower price ranges, are notorious for spiking on bright stars.

Porro prism binoculars fill up my hands much better than any small roof prism binocular,
this in turn allows for better image stability when stargazing.

Porro prism binoculars also offer better illumination, overall, for the nighttime skies.

I have two, older, Nikon 7x35 Gold Sentinel binoculars and they are excellent for stargazing.

You won't be disappointed with the Nikon Action Extreme 7x35 and its w i d e FOV.

Stan
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I just bought one off eBay for 19 dollars and some change!!   Free shipping!  Bucky   A Tasco Model 118 extra wide angle---587 feet @1000 yds!   


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I have always been a leary of "the big auction house" in the sky for things involving lenses, mirrors, and electric parts.  But those are almost throw away prices. Hmm. 

The Nikon Extreme's 7x35 are the same weight as my 10x50s so I was trying to find something lighter, though they are definitely better balanced with the small objective barrels. 

I guess with my price range I have to find a good balance between my desires. 
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Hi. Yes you can't have cheap, good quality and light in the one unit :) You'll have to make some compromise. However, I think there is an easy answer to your question. Vortex Raptor 6.5x32 are porro and only 17.3 ounces. You won't notice any difference between 7 and 6.5 magnification except that they are slightly lighter ;)

Personally, I think roof prism are better for your application of backpacking and hunting since they are lighter, more compact, more waterproof and more robust than the same objective lens diameter/magnification/exit pupil in a porro. Though of course you'll have to pay more for quality.
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There are a few other 7x30 porros based off the lightweight Yosemite design., the Zhumell Emerge and Celestron Cypress being two that immediately come to mind. I would also suggest the Celestron Nature 8x30. It is actually a 7x30, measured, despite what is on the label. They are selling for as low as $40 recently and only weigh 17 ounces.
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