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I just recently got a new T/C Venture .243 and looking for the best scope for my money i want to spend no more then 200. This gun is to be used for predator and deer.  Anyone have idea of what is the best for the money? Thinking about nikon prostaff or red field. 
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I just put one of these on a .243, I like it a lot.


http://swfa.com/Burris-3-9x40-Fullfield-II-Rifle-Scope-P10984.aspx


Very good glass for less than 200 beans right now. 



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I would go redfield over the prostaff.

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I have the Pentax version of the Fullfield II and it is a very nice scope so the Burris would be a good idea. The vortex 2-7 would also be a good deal as would be the redfield. The are also the weaver K6 and there were some Burris fixed 6x on sale and both would be nice on a 243 unless your deer are in a real thicket.

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Some good reading here.


http://opticsthoughts.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=29:qinexpensive-scopeq-comparison&catid=4:rifle-scope-reviews&Itemid=4


I have one of the Diamondbacks and it is a great hunting scope. I threw the Burris in there as it's normally a bit higher than your budget, and the electro dot might be something you'd want for varmits. Glass vs glass my eyes aren't good enough to see any real difference except for the wider field of view on the Vortex.

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the thing i hated about the ffII i had was that in cold weather the magnification ring became very and i mean very hard to turn.
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LOL Pyro, when you say it's cold, well the rest of us aren't outside. All kidding aside, it does take a bit of playing with it before the magnification ring smooths out. I can imagine out in the field with it being VERY cold "be nice I live in South Texas" that it might be more of an issue. 
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The Burris FFII and the vortex viper 2-7 would be my first picks in that price range
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I put the 2-7 viper on the venture that I bought and am very happy with it.

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You know there is also the sightron sii 3x9 that is being offered with a $50 rebate that puts it right in your price range. I haven't owned one but the ones I've seen are pretty nice and they seem to pretty highly thought of.
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  Nothing wrong with that Sightron at all.  I'd say it's compares with a VXII.
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Originally posted by 300S&W 300S&W wrote:

 
  Nothing wrong with that Sightron at all.  I'd say it's compares with a VXII.
 
 
I agree
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As far as the power ring getting difficult to turn, it is because of the grease we use to lubricate the quad seals. It is a very thick grease.
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why not use a different grease then?
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Originally posted by jmg8550 jmg8550 wrote:

As far as the power ring getting difficult to turn, it is because of the grease we use to lubricate the quad seals. It is a very thick grease.

beings burris came from greely colorado, i dont accept that answer. they of all people should have known better. the mountains turn blue when your beer is as cold as the rockiesWink
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Yes, Burris is based here in Colorado.  
 
PYRO6999, I work for Burris repairing their scopes. As far as you not accepting that answer, I can't help you there. I'm not sure why that particular grease was chosen, but I'm sure it was for a good reason.
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After 1 day at the range in 80 degree weather playing with it, mine loosened up to acceptable. Anyone used a hairdryer to simulate that? My Falcon Menace is still VERY stiff. I might have to try a little heating. "still have 3 years of warranty left  Big Grin"
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I just sat around working my power rings back and forth..... now I have 12 Burris's with smooth power rings, ...... and 24" forearms!!Wink

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Originally posted by 300S&W 300S&W wrote:

 
  Nothing wrong with that Sightron at all.  I'd say it's compares with a VXII.

I agree with the Sightron choice and if you look around, you can find them for 199 then they have a 50 dollar rebate.  SWFA will price match.  However, I disagree.  I would say it compares to the VX-3, imho and is a true top of the line scope, so to speak.  If you look around you can find a Bushnell Elite 4200 with the Rainguard, if that is important to you, for 199.  Personally, I do not find that feature a deal maker or breaker, but some find it very important due to their hunting conditions.

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Originally posted by quarterbore quarterbore wrote:

Originally posted by 300S&W 300S&W wrote:

 
  Nothing wrong with that Sightron at all.  I'd say it's compares with a VXII.

I agree with the Sightron choice and if you look around, you can find them for 199 then they have a 50 dollar rebate.  SWFA will price match.  However, I disagree.  I would say it compares to the VX-3, imho and is a true top of the line scope, so to speak.  If you look around you can find a Bushnell Elite 4200 with the Rainguard, if that is important to you, for 199.  Personally, I do not find that feature a deal maker or breaker, but some find it very important due to their hunting conditions.



IMO, I think the SII Big Sky is a competitor to the VX-3, but the standard SII is not quite up to the others' level, optically.  I've owned all three, and found the standard SII falls behind in both resolution and contrast.
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Originally posted by Bitterroot Bulls Bitterroot Bulls wrote:

Originally posted by quarterbore quarterbore wrote:

Originally posted by 300S&W 300S&W wrote:

 
  Nothing wrong with that Sightron at all.  I'd say it's compares with a VXII.

I agree with the Sightron choice and if you look around, you can find them for 199 then they have a 50 dollar rebate.  SWFA will price match.  However, I disagree.  I would say it compares to the VX-3, imho and is a true top of the line scope, so to speak.  If you look around you can find a Bushnell Elite 4200 with the Rainguard, if that is important to you, for 199.  Personally, I do not find that feature a deal maker or breaker, but some find it very important due to their hunting conditions.



IMO, I think the SII Big Sky is a competitor to the VX-3, but the standard SII is not quite up to the others' level, optically.  I've owned all three, and found the standard SII falls behind in both resolution and contrast.

I own VX-3s and SIIs and have a SII BS on the way.  I can only say that from my experience that the SIIs that I own, while not the exact same dimensions so to speak as the VX-3s, the SIIs seem to be the equal if not slightly superior to the VX-3s.  Now, this is purely subjective and to my eyes and for me splitting hairs as I love both lines of scopes.  The Leupolds that I have fit a particular niche that the Sightron scopes cannot really fill as they do not have any in their line up to do that, so they really are not interchangeable.  I have only one VX-II and it is clear and away inferior to my Sightron SIIs and frankly I am quite disappointed with it.  It is a 3x9 on a custom rifle that I built, oil finished commercial mauser in a 243 Win. and I purchased it just because of the Golden Ring.  I know that on hunting rifles after sighting in one rarely adjusts turrets, but I really dislike the coin slot adjustments on the turrets.  For that much money, please Leupold add finger adjustable turrets on all models.  In reality they are all good scopes, but the VX-II unless I needed a specific finish and no other model fit the bill and cost was an issue, I would not buy it over the others.  Just imho.

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