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i'm looking to purchase a new rifle. my price range is about $350 without the scope. and then i can spend about $200 on the scope. i was considering the ruger american rifle. I can't really find something wrong with that gun. It seems amazing! another options are the savage 111 trophy hunter... the only problem i have with that is the accu-trigger... i've seen that it is very easy to break the trigger... if you had $550 to spend for just a beginners hunting rifle... what scope and rifle combo would you go with? are there any rifles i havnt seen?

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i haven't heard of accu-triggers breaking and i know a lot of folks out here that have them. me included.

if you don't want an accu-trigger they do make savage bolt actions without them.


beginners hunting rifle? we might need a little more info on that --are we talking deer at 100m or bigger game at longer ranges?

hogs in the brush? a coyote gun shooting 500m?

that covers a lot of ground.

out here most folks hunt whitetail deer at ranges from about 60-200M so they have a lot of options there from the 30-30 to various magnums.

for all around use you might consider a savage bolt action 308, 30-06 or maybe even a 223 depending on what your going to be shooting.
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i'm going to be hunting whitetail at no more than 200 yards.
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hell an axis/edge bolt action made by savage don't have the accu-trigger and it is the least expensive of the bunch.

there very tough guns and accurate out to most practical ranges you likely hunt. the only real flaw it has is the mag latch is plastic--

you can mod the trigger to beet a better pull. personally i would buy just the rifle and add the scope as the scoped one have bushnell 3-9x 40s on um --a tolerable but very cheap scope.

sometimes you can get just the rifle for $240-$260

come over here to SWFA and check out the scopes that fit your type of hunting.

you can have a good accurate rifle and a good scope for $500 or less.
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most people out here use the 30-06 , mainly because its ammo is common and easy to find.

for white tails it is a bit more than necessary. more power is not really bad though.

  7mm-08 is  mild recoiling and easy to be accurate with. only thing it it is sort of an odd round. it might be more expensive--

a savage and a good 2-7x scope or maybe a 3-9x should fill the bill very well i would think.
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I love the accutrigger. Savage is GTG.
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Originally posted by beat_baws beat_baws wrote:

i'm going to be hunting whitetail at no more than 200 yards.


I am thinking if that is all you are going to shoot. I would look at a .243 caliber.
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Not familiar with the ruger, the Savage and the new Marlins are holding very good reviews and my personal experience is equally positive. (The Marlins are built on the Savage patent) The accu trigger is a fair standard set up that I really doubt you will have any problems with. Check local pawn shops for used ones and you can save 50 to 100 bks on guns that haven't been used all that much. You can make your own judgment based on condition. For the money the Nikon Pro Staff 3X9X50 is gonna give you the best function and glass for your intent. Shop around and you should be able to get a new one for under 250.00. For a starter rifle I'd suggest the 30-06 for a long list of reasons a few being. Bullet wt. and configuration variety, availability and not so bad on recoil. If the recoil is an issue there are inexpensive things you can do to take the edge off. Most Marlins come with the scope base included and they offer package guns with low end scopes too. Remember to factor in the cost of rings and bases if they are not included. They can run from cheap 20.00 junk to 50+ one piece DNZ's.
Welcome to the OT.
Good luck and let us know what you put together.
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I think you have to start with the rifle and I would rather start with a Tikka or a Savage even if it ment spending almost all of the money on the rifle and using a cheap POS scope for a year until you could afford a better one.  http://www.samplelist.com/TradeInForm.aspx  SWFA does take some things in trade toward scopes so that is one possible.  But I would rather start with a rifle that I know will ultimately shoot well straight out of the box than one that is an unknown.  All the Tikka rifles shoot under  1 in or they dont leave the factory.  The Savages have been very reliable even their lower models some of which come as a rifle scope package but personally I like the 20 in version of their police model 10 with its short heavy barrel in .308 and I love their accutrigger.      
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Me. too. I would spend the bankroll on the rifle and worry about a scope later. You could buy a workable used Weaver scope off of ebay....


Now you can go buy a gun!!!! 

 








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the marlin XR is also a very good iron.

budget irons that shoot generally the savage and the marlin rule the roost. the old savage edge 308  i bought some years ago will toss rounds sub 1" and some will go well under with my 169gr and 175 handloads. i don't see how you could need more for 200m shots.  with the stock thin LW barrel to.

makes me wonder how well it could do with a heavy barrel.

look over the scopes on the "sample list"   they got everything from from nikon buckmasters, leupold vx 11s and up to  semi-exotics for big $$$ off.

hell they got a minox z3 50mm for $199 --yea its a 50mm but damn--that is a hell of a scope for two C-notes.

hell i may put one on my 22--LOL!
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