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I'm looking for a great cost effective scope for my new Marlin 45-70 lever gun. I was told the BSA 3.5 - 10 x 50 Catseye was a great scope but I'm partial to the mildot reticle and have even liked some of the NC Star ilimunated reticles (not sure of their quality). I really like the Super Sniper 10 x 40 style but the power is too high. Any one have any recomendations. Price range $300 or less.

 

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i recommend a 1-4 power scope, or something of that nature. a high-power scope, or mildot is simply out of place on a 45-70 lever gun. i would go for the leupold VXII 1-4, or VXIII 1.5-5. is the gun stainless, matte, or gloss.

 

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Thanks for the quick response. The rifle is the stainless model. I hear what your saying about looking out of place. I favor tactical type but sometimes they are not suited for some applications.

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well, thats a nice gun you have there, i was looking at one of those myself. what finish do you want for the scope??? i think with mate mounts/rings, it would look fine with a matte scope.

 

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Matte finish is actually what I'm looking for. I saw a stainless 45-70 with a scope with stainless or "Silver" finish but to me it was just too much. I have looked at some NCStars at a local gun show. The vendor boasted they were of quality. Shock proof, fog proof and Nitrogen filled. The optics were very clear but I don't know much about them. We all know you get what you pay for... In the Super Sniper's case you get more... The only scopes I have owned are Simmons, Bushnell, Tasco and a ATN 4-12 x 60 with Bullet drop compaensation (On my Bushmaster Varminter). I'm at a knowlege dis-advantage here. Thanks for your help.

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sorry, but i forgot to mention that NcStar is the biggest peice of crap out there. get a leupold, you wont go back to economy scopes. if you get a ncstar you might as well just be flushing that money down the toilet. spend the extra money for a leupold VXII 1-4x20.

 

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Cory, thanks for the advise. I had reservation based on price but wasn't sure. I will consider the Leupold you metioned.

 

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very good idea.

 

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$300. or less for a lever 45/70 stainless??

 

Here's a big group to choose from starting way below your budget and barely eclipsing your budget.

 

Bushnell Trophy 1.75-4x32.....$99.95

Weaver Classic V-3 1-3x20....$149.95

Nikon Monarch 1.5-4.5x20.....$239.99

Leupold VX-II 1-4x20.....$259.95

Weaver Grand Slam 1.5-5x32.....$269.95

Burris 1.75-5x32 Signature Safari......$329.95

 

I've got the same gun in matte.  I bought it last year and it came with the factory ports, a friend of mine liked it so I ordered him one too and it came with no ports.  Now all of them are portless.  Does anyone know why they switched production?  Mine has a Leupold 2.5x28 Scout scope mounted with Leupold quick release rings on an XS Sight Systems no drill and tap scout mount and XS back up ghost ring sights.

 

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I have the Weaver Grand Slam 1.5-5 on a Marlin 1895M and it's been through several Alaska moose seasons and almost weekly range sessions without a problem.  Optically and tracking-wise, it's as good or better than any of the Leupold's or Nikon's I have.  My only complaint is the relatively short eye relief compared to the Leupold.  It will "kiss' you if you're one to creep up on the scope!
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Chris, from what I have read in the past (not sure if it's accurate) the decision not to port was due to excessive noise. The porting signifantly increase the muzzle blast. By the way, I would like to tahnk everyone for the suggestions. After reading a article on the BSA Catseye and a visit to the local Bullseye gun store, I ordered the BSA 3.5-10 x50 Catseye with illuminated Euro style reticle. I ordered from riflescopes.com :) Now I just have to wait for the "Brown Truck of Happiness" to deliver it.

 

Here is the Article URL

http://www.gunblast.com/BSA_Catseye.htm 

 

 

And for thos who would like a great article on the Marlin 45-70's check this out.

http://www.galleryofguns.com/shootingtimes/Articles/DisplayArticles.asp?ID=3559  

 

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I think you will be ordering a new scope in short order.

 

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When I looked through the scope at my local "Bullseye" gun store the optics were very clear, the articles I read had good things to say. Gunblast.com tested it on a 45-70. It held up to the recoil. I feel pretty comfortable that it will work well with this rifle and the price leaves me in a position to pick up a 10X42 Super Sniper for my Rem 700 VS I am ordering. Seems like a Win Win!

 

http://www.huntinfo.com/reviews/product_reviews.php3?Action=Read&areview=1035116848 

 

I appreciate all the feed back.

 

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I can relate to the excessive noise.  Thanks for the order.  Stop back by once you have gotten a chance to mount it and shoot it and let us know what ya think.
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BigDaddy -

 

Good luck with your 45-70. Great, fun round. FWIW I'm using a matte Nikon 1.5-6x42 Gold in Warne QD rings on my stainless #1 - no problems so far with ~120 handload rounds.

 

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As much as I hate to agree with Ranburr, he is 100% correct. A scope that big has no useful place on a 45/70. As you stated, you do have aother use for the BSA, so all is not for loss. Like Chris and Ranburr, we are just trying to help you. Good luck with that great brush gun.
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Roy Fin, I appreciate your input. When I started this thread I failed to mention I'm not a hunter. The next time I will be more accurate. I collect and shoot guns with my son just for the heck of it. This is why I wasn't too worried about size. I was more worried about clearity, holding zero and withstanding the recoil. We will be shooting up to 200 yards so I think we may be OK with this one. If not, I will mount it on another toy.  

 

Thanks for the input.

This has been a great forum!

Rob

 

 

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Swing Swivel, how do like that Ruger #1?  The stainless #1 has been on my "want list" for some time. I'm a 45-70 fan and have even thought about a BFR in 45-70. Any way... Thanks for your response.

 

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Oops! That last one was for Sling Swivel. Sorry for the typo.
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Swing, Sling, Sing, whatever as long as I can keep on swiveling

 

I use the #1 for elk in dark timber where most shots are less than 100 yards. It is fairly quick to point and seems balanced, but is heavy. The weight is accentuated by the Nikon scope as it is very heavy as well - but maybe that helps take some of the edge off of the recoil on the hotter handloads. Time will tell if the scope can keep it up. I've added a pre-fit LimbSaver that fits very well and does work. I really like the eye relief and lower power on the scope as it allows for a less than perfect mount in a hurry and I feel confident that I won't get an eyebrow ring (knock on wood!). The stainless and laminate have been snowed on and cleaned up easily - but maybe no easier than a blued action, so that could be a wash.

 

All in all it has been a good purchase. My wife likes to shoot it at the range as well. I'm still working on my son getting up the courage ro give it a whirl. I like getting razzed by the others in elk camp - we have a collection of 7mms, .300's, and one guy who shoots something new every year - I keep telling 'em slower and larger beats faster and smaller. Always fun trash talkin'

 

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Sling, good to hear you enjoy the #1. As far as the 7mm and 300 Winchester Mags go they are flat shooters at distances and are proven good hunters. I owned a Howa 300 Winchester Mag (Target shooting only) and I realy enjoyed it. But I still would rather shoot the 45-70. I have always liked the big bores. I have read recent articles about the 45-70 Marlin's popularity growing in Africa since Buffalo Bore started making the 45-70 magnum rounds. Not sure if you have seen the ammo or not. Here is some info if you are interested on shooting some rounds that will give you shaken baby syndrome. The last box of 20 I purchased was $37.99.

 

Take care Sling and hang on to that #1.

http://www.buffalobore.com/ammunition/default.htm 

430 gr. L.F.N. G.C. 1925 F.P.S.

405 gr J.F.N. 2000 F.P.S.

350 gr. J.F.N. 2150 F.P.S.

500 gr. F.M.J.F.N. 1650 F.P.S.

 

 

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I put a Burris Signature 1.75X5 Safari on my Marlin 1895G and I love it.  You can use low rings, and the extended eye relief is handy when I'm shooting hot loads.
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Chris, nice setup. Well... The scope came today and I am very pleased with the optics. It's mounted and bore sighted, ready to break paper. Weaver mount, Burris Zee rings and Buttler Creek flip up covers. I won't get to the range this wekend. Maybe next weekend. Thanks for the quick shipping SWFA!

 

 

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Looks mean! Good luck with the break in and sight in and keep your shoulder safe.

 

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