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I live and hunt big game in the adirondacks and use 7mm08 with 3-9x40 scope. I am planning a hunting trip out west to Montana. Will be hunting with a 300 win mag. Need to know what power scope to use in Montana.   
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A 3-9 will work fine there also, and don't be afraid to bring along your 7mm-08.
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I often hunt in MT with a 7-08 and 2-7X32 scope.

I am with WYcoyote.  If you are confident in shooting the 7-08, just take it.

If you want a scope for your 300, that would be fine too.

I have several magnification configurations on my hunting rifles including the 2-7X32 already mentioned, 3-9X42, 3.5-10X42, 4-12X50, and 4-16X50.  I don't feel like any of them have too much or too little magnification.  They all work well for me hunting in MT.
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Welcome to the OT Sarge, where do you hunt in the Adirondacks?
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And please consider that all 3-9s are not created equal. 

A 300WM (my favorite caliber) has a long reach, what are you shooting at and at what range?

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do you have a price range?
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Originally posted by Rancid Coolaid Rancid Coolaid wrote:

And please consider that all 3-9s are not created equal. 

 

Well stated RC.  This is very, very, very true.
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Thank you to all who have replied. 
 I love my 7mm 08 and will take it to Montana. I did not think the caliber was big enough to hunt out there.
I always wanted to hunt mule deer and elk and thought I needed a big caliber rifle like a 300 win mag
Here 60 yd to 100 yd shot is a long shot. I've been told I would be shooting 400 yd to 1000 yd out there and the deer are much bigger there.
I never used a scope until a couple of years ago ( age caught up with my sight ) when I could not see my open sights. I know you can spend a lot on scopes. I paid about $400 for the Tasco scope on my 7mm 08 and it works well but not sure how a 3-9x40 would work there. I've been looking at some Leupold scopes but not sure what power to use.
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I hunt Warren, Hamilton and Essex counties here in the Adirondacks. I have hunted out near Parish NY.  Oswego, stationed there in the USCG 73 to 74.
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Sarge, I've lived in Oswego for about 22 years, Pulaski before that and I hunted St. Lawrence County back in behind Horseshoe Lake for about 20 years and Herkimer county when I was a pup. Now hunt Jefferson County and still miss the big woods but old age makes the big woods kinda tough.
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Originally posted by SargeR. SargeR. wrote:

I always wanted to hunt mule deer and elk and thought I needed a big caliber rifle like a 300 win mag.

I assure you that you don't.

Originally posted by SargeR. SargeR. wrote:

I've been told I would be shooting 400 yd to 1000 yd out there 

You were told wrong.  The vast majority of deer and elk are killed at ranges under 300 yards.  I would recommend practicing to 300 yards and getting a rangefinder though.

Originally posted by SargeR. SargeR. wrote:

the deer are much bigger there.

Yes they are, but a good 140 grain bullet out of the 7-08 will knock them dead at 300 yards and in.  Same goes for elk.  Put it through the boiler room on a broadside target, and you will be good to go.

Originally posted by SargeR. SargeR. wrote:

I've been looking at some Leupold scopes but not sure what power to use.

if you want a new scope for your hunt, by all means get one.  Just make sure it is dialed in and you are confident with it before you head out.  Then bring your Tasco as a back up.

I hope you enjoy my home state.  It really is "The Last Best Place."


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Bitterroot, Thank you for the info. You have been a big help. I will bring the 7mm08 because it is my favorite rifle. Will get a range finder. I will be ready to hunt in your state.  My son and I are going to Iowa in December to hunt whitetail. Next year we hope Montana. I will keep you posted on our progress and be asking for more advise on our hunt in Montana.
 Here is a little story: My son is big into hunting ( bow his favorite ). His rifle is a stove poker (30-06) that he has taken a lot of deer. When he went into the Navy, I told him I took his 30-06 and put the barrel in a vice, bent it into a stove poker. That's how his rifle got the name stove poker. Don't feel sorry for him because he gets me all the time.

Peddler, know the area well out there.  Still have friends there.


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What 300WM offers over 7mm-08 is a certain measure of forgiveness.  

I have hunted elk but am far from an expert; however, I am a big fan of "more gun than you need" for animals I prize and want to be certain I recover.  Few things suck more than losing an animal.

On the Tasco, $400 sounds a little high for their wares.  There are much better scopes in the $400 market, and 300WM can beat up a scope.
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Originally posted by SargeR. SargeR. wrote:

Bitterroot, Thank you for the info. I will keep you posted on our progress and be asking for more advise on our hunt in Montana.

You're welcome!  Please do keep us posted, and fire away any questions you would like.
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Experience in shooting critters of various sizes tells me that if you put a bullet of reasonably sound construction in the vitals, the list of cartridges that will bring about swift, humane death is much broader than conventional wisdom suggests. Conversely, a hit outside the vitals with a .460 Wby will still result in a BG animal running a long way before expiring. Shot placement and bullet construction are far more important than how much powder is behind the bullet. 7-08 is plenty enough gun for elk. Just pick a well constructed 140 - 168 gr bullet, put it in the shoulder, and make sure your knife is sharp.



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just some food for thought...   what do you consider to be the effective range of the 7mm-08?  in this case.. with Elk?   Whitetails....  big sky mule deer?
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Originally posted by Tip69 Tip69 wrote:

just some food for thought...   what do you consider to be the effective range of the 7mm-08?  in this case.. with Elk?   Whitetails....  big sky mule deer?

400 yards keeps a 140 TTSX over 2000 fps.  That is enough for any of the above species.  Even at 500 you are still over 1800, so that could be a limit as well.  you can go further with a high BC heavier bullet of course.

I would keep it under 400 with the 140 TTSX.
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that is plenty far enough for me....  thanks for the info Matt...  that's a better answer than I had anticipated too... with the fps and all!
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Max Point Blank Range for the 7mm-08 is below in red.  Still a pretty fair distance without  having to worry about holdover.

7mm-08 Rem. (120 Sp at 3000) .343 +2.6" +2.0" 3"@140 287
7mm-08 Rem. (140 BT at 2860) .485 +2.6" +1.9" 3"@140 285


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A lot of people in the west use the 7mm-08 for deer hunting.  I prefer something larger for elk but the 150 grain Partitions or trophy bonded bullets do kill elk in the 7mm-08.
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Kind of where my head is at too.  I prefer my 338-06 for elk but hard to argue with folks success with the 7mm-08 on elk.

Actually putting together a lightweight hunting rifle and leaning heavy towards either 260 Rem or 7mm-08.  Already shoot/reload 260 Rem but this thread has me thinking about adding another caliber to the mix.  Lightweight rifles in 7mm-08 are definitely more plentiful compared to a 260 Rem, but both would be easy on the shoulder.
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