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Well I got some cabelas points burning a hole in my pocket. I need a beater ranch rifle. Somthing I can keep on my gun rack of atv while working on my new property. This will be for varmint/predator control and oh ya I rescently found hog sign too! This rifle will be a true work horse that ideally I could use to run hog and predator traps as well. So what you boys suggest? My gut tells me a 17hmr synthetic/stainless with a Burris 2-7. What else is out ther? I will sometimes use this on the fly so somthing that doesn't blow out my ear drums would be ideal. Can 17hmr be shot safely without ear protection?

Don't be shy boys! Also don't want a high end rifle cuz it will get beat up!
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.204
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Originally posted by mike650 mike650 wrote:

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Concur. I'd probably opt for .223 and did for my truck gun.
I like and have a .17 HMR, but it will lack the punch of a .223 or .243 for hogs and such.
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I am going to say just a basic Savage 243. Just about every gun store I have been in still has that ammo in stock. And that is saying something these days! Put a basic 2-7 on it and you have a nice light handy hunting rig. http://swfa.com/Vortex-2-7x35-Diamondback-Rifle-Scope-P11235.aspx
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My truck gun, complete with truck and tool box. 

A couple of things I considered along with the caliber was barrel length, (short), 100% feeding reliability, and a lower magnification optic with a lit reticle.  

Remington SPS Tactical in .223, with HS stock, PT&G detachable magazine, AI 10 round mag and Leupold VX-R 3-9x Fire Dot. 


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Oh....and the wonderful Talley LW's. Big Grin 
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Nice Mark, is that Black Beauty?

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This is Rachel's .243, I'd say this would make a very nice ranch rifle as well. It also has Talley LW's... that hold a 2-7x36 scope.    Bandito
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I would get a Savage "Hog Hunter" bolt-action rifle. These are short, light, and they have a synthetic stock that you can literally beat the crap out of and you wouldn't care. Also has the "accutrigger", and comes with sling studs and open sights (great for a ranch rifle). And potentially best of all, depending on your state laws, they come with a threaded barrel for the addition of a suppressor.

These come in .223, .308, and IIRC .338. Either of the first two calibers would be fine, depending of course on how big your hogs are...
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LOL, rifles can be like golf clubs or fishing rods!! Not sure if a .308 would be my every day choice for a ranch rifle targeting varmints and predators but the OP did later say hogs are a possibility; Savage makes a very good product and would be a good choice as well, the threaded barrel sounds interesting if state law allows.


There's are a lot of options out there, my daughter's rifle is an X-Bolt Micro and is a nail driver. Because it's a Micro it's a real nice compact rifle, 6#'s without scope and rings, 20" barrel, and comes in composite stock, SS too (she chose old school blued/wood which I thought was pretty cool). Mark's rifle I believe has a 20" barrel as well, Remy probably the most upgradeable platform out there and kicks butt. There's a lot of great choices out there. Thunbs Up



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Like PhilR above said, I'd take a hard look at the savage
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I would be looking at a Mossberg MVP in 223 for a rifle that would very well see hard use. Plus I like the fact that they take AR15 mags. And a Leupold VXR 2-7 with a firedot 4 reticle.
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Originally posted by Sparky Sparky wrote:

I would be looking at a Mossberg MVP in 223 for a rifle that would very well see hard use. Plus I like the fact that they take AR15 mags. And a Leupold VXR 2-7 with a firedot 4 reticle.


That's a cool rifle! If they ever make it in .308, I would have to give it serious consideration.....
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When you started talking about shooting hogs with it the 17Hmr didnt make the grade. Use hearing protection with every firearms if you possibly can.  When I hear the term "ranch rifle" the first thing that pops into mind is winchester and marlin lever actions which were available in a variety of calibers. The next thing that comes to mind is the Ruger Mini 14, 30 & 6.8spc.  To me the ranch rifle concept is a short barrel rifle capable of serving multiple tasks.  If you are wanting to use the rifle for hogs the cartridges that come to mind are definately not .22 cal no matter how much powder one puts behind a .22 it is still a relatively light weight bullet and hogs are big heavy tough critters where you need some penetration. While I do not know how much of an issue snakes are on your property I would think that a cartridge which has some snake shot loads available might be desirable so something like a .357 mag or 44 mag might make a lot of sense.  Ruger makes some bolt actions that are short handy little rilfes about an inch and a half longer than a ruger ten-twenty-two:  77/44 and 77/357 which might serve your purpose nicely. http://ruger.com/products/rotaryMagazine/index.html
Cat. # Mod. # Caliber Cap. Stock Barrel
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K77/44-RSP 7402 44 Rem Mag   4 Black Synthetic 18.50" 38.50" 5.25 lbs.


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Now I really can't make up my mind. All of the above suggestions are great. I am leaning toward a bolt 223. The moss berg MVP is nice but almost to pretty for this job. I may look for somthing used in a pawn shop.
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To bad Ruger does not make the M77 in 6.8 spc any more.  That would be a great truck gun caliber IMO.  A bit more umph than the .223 but still very moderate in the recoil department.  
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My .223 would be a pretty good ranch rifle, if I had a ranch!!!Bucky But I would be interested in the new 17wsm in a Savage B Mag.

 Remington XCR Compact tactical .223 -factory with trynite finish, 20" barrel, custom shop trigger, BC medalist stock. I have an EGW base and Burris Xtreme tactical rings. It is super accurate, taken 16 deer , 1 hog, and several varmints. It is not real light but handles very well with the short barrel. The trynite finish is super tough. BUT it is really-really loud !!
 
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Nice rifles, Men.

No Mike, this rig name is Gloria.
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I'm surprised the .204 isn't getting more love.
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.204 for  HOGS thats lighter than the .223 bullets. Actually the .243 Savage makes a huge amount of sense mainly because you can still find ammo for it.   The .223 is a bit tricky to find ammo for right now, and the .243 will shoot a 100 gr bullet.  I personally  have a hard time going to something less powerful that .308 and yesterday when I went to the farm I took a 300 WSM but it all depends on size of the critter and distance because in bear country a heavy .30 cal or larger would be preferable.  Also for a truck gun Im not so sure you need a scope if it will be treated roughly. I tend to like something relatively short that I can get turned around inside the truck. To me that is 16 to 20 in barrel rifles. Ive looked over the Ruger 77 in 44 mag and it would seem to be a handy little rifle especially in stainless.   I had a 44mag Win 94 and regret tradeing it on another rifle.  Ive been looking for another lever gun possilby 45-70 or .357 mag in stainless if I could find one.  Oh well I'll make due as I do have a pistol in 44mag which is what I use for that purpose.

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Wes I guarantee you, if you take Duece with his .204 out he would be able to put one in his ear.
 
I was just thinking from the velocity perspective and knowing a little bit about the round. I'm surprised no one else has mentioned.
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I know Ted likes the .204 also, but I've never had one, that and the 17 hmr are interesting but I have a hard time stepping away from the .30 cal rifles when I need a rifle, because I want it to be able to stop anything that I run across, (I need a better .375 H&H). And while I am not fond of the .223 I have several of them mainly due to what once was easy to find ammo, light recoil and moderate noise. The 7.62x39  and 7.62x54 offer another solution with their cheap Russian ammo so there are lots of possibles like Ruger Mini 30 on an Arsenal AK or a Mosin Nagant they  will take a beating.  Still up until he said HOGs the light guns ( .223   22mag)  were a good choice but Ive shot hogs with a 30 carbine and it didnt stop them so anything that might want to chase me down and hurt me makes me think differently about the choice of caliber.  Also being able to carefully aim and accurately place a shot is way different than grabbing the rifle and instantly shooting. When I was in high school in Texas we used to hunt rabbits chasing them in an old international scout that had a gun rack above the rear view mirror. My buddy had been leaning out the window shooting at a rabbit while I drove, as we slid up to a barb wire fence the rabbit took off to my left I grabbed the ruger 10-22 off the gun rack threw it to my shoulder and shot three shots killing the rabbit at a full run.  Some guns just feel right, and when I looked at the Ruger 77/44 it feels a lot like a 10-22 and Im sure the .357 model also does,  the mini 14 and mini 30 also have a similar feel and their .308 scout rifle is a nice short rifle also.  If I recall correctly Ilya was quite pleased with a lever action .357 he has. Unfortuantely Marlin does not seem to be building much lately, where Ruger seems to have thrown open the flood gates and is in full production.
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How about this Ruger with a low powered variable??


I personally think a .308 is a tad big for a truck gun for ME in MY AO, but when there's a potential BIG hog that maybe lurking out there, then why not?   
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Originally posted by cbm cbm wrote:

My .223 would be a pretty good ranch rifle, if I had a ranch!!!Bucky But I would be interested in the new 17wsm in a Savage B Mag.

 Remington XCR Compact tactical .223 -factory with trynite finish, 20" barrel, custom shop trigger, BC medalist stock. I have an EGW base and Burris Xtreme tactical rings. It is super accurate, taken 16 deer , 1 hog, and several varmints. It is not real light but handles very well with the short barrel. The trynite finish is super tough. BUT it is really-really loud !!
 

I just noticed that you have a pic rail ring on the rear. What do you mount on that? 
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Bro, is an AR-15 out of the question? 
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