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Just been reading on varmint cartidges and curious to what everyone likes?  any cartridge, from rimfire, 22-250, to one of those sick twisted bastards im jealous of whos shoots ground hogs with a 50Big Mother Gunner

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.204 Ruger, without question.
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Originally posted by RifleDude RifleDude wrote:

.204 Ruger, without question.
 
whats the expected barrel life on one of those lighting guns
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  Guess I'm "one of those sick twisted bastards". I never had a dedicated groundhog rifle.  I just used one GOOD rifle (all I had) for everything.  A .300 magnum w/150gr bullets at 3400fps.  Not many places to hunt them now but would probably go with my son's .25-06 M70.
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LOL 300 mag now thats what im talkn about. 
 
well not necessary just  groundhogs, just all them pesky critters. from peter cottontail to the wily coyote
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.220 Swift, which has similar ballistic trajectory to the .204, but much heavier knock down power.  Plus, since my rifle is an Etronx, it is inherently more accurate...
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bolts or semi
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.223, inexpensive to shoot and reload. I also have a few rifles in this caliber and being able to feed the same mouths with the same food is beneficial.
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223 is prob a little easier on the bore also compared to those 4, 4.5, 5k- fps rounds
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From what I have read, .204s are not hard on barrels at all.  Very similar to the .223
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thats suprising Id figure from doing those speeds its tear the rifling out of the barrel in 500-1000 rounds
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anybody use the 22-250. they tend to be pretty popular yote guns around where i live. or are there anymore crazies like  mr.  300S&W
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Less powder, less abrasion.  The 22-250 and the 220 swift hold much more powder so that means more fire right on the throat.  
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As long as I shoot the factory rounds, rated at approximately 3860fps from my 26" barrel, my barrel is supposed to last 2000-3000 rounds.  Goes down to about 1000 at "max load" (suggested to me by Remington) around 4200fps.  It is a bolt gun, they never made a semi-auto Etronx.
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yea i think the only ones i know that are semis is teh 204,223, 243
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Originally posted by supertool73 supertool73 wrote:

From what I have read, .204s are not hard on barrels at all.  Very similar to the .223
 
Exactly.  That's one of the many reasons I like it.  It produces 600 - 800 FPS more velocity than the .223 with the same amount of powder AND higher BC (when comparing 50 gr .224 bullets vs. 39 gr. .204).  I have seen no discernible difference in terminal performance between it and a .22-250.  It costs less to load for and it doesn't heat up barrels as fast.  Barrel life is reportedly the same as for a .223.  I believe it, as I have a little over 6000 rounds through mine so far, with no perceptible throat erosion and no loss of accuracy.
 
It produces so little recoil that with a reasonable rifle weight, it doesn't jar the rifle enough to prevent you from spotting your own shots through the scope at long range.  It's commonly believed that you can do this with any .22 cal centerfire, but this is not the case, as even the slightest jolt in the rifle is enough to move the target out of the sight picture at high magnification.  With 39 gr. SBK's and a near max charge of Benchmark powder, I'm getting bughole groups.  It's an amazing little cartridge!  There's nothing that the .22-250 and .220 Swift will do that it won't, but it does it with less powder, less barrel wear, less recoil, and about the same wind resistance.  That's what I call a winning combination!
 
The only disadvantage I've seen for this round is you have to use a small diameter cleaning rod, and a smaller diameter powder funnel when reloading.


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Originally posted by RifleDude RifleDude wrote:

Originally posted by supertool73 supertool73 wrote:

From what I have read, .204s are not hard on barrels at all.  Very similar to the .223
 
Exactly.  That's one of the many reasons I like it.  It produces 600 - 800 FPS more velocity than the .223 with the same amount of powder AND higher BC (when comparing 50 gr .224 bullets vs. 39 gr. .204).  I have seen no discernible difference in terminal performance between it and a .22-250.  It costs less to load for and it doesn't heat up barrels as fast.  Barrel life is reportedly the same as for a .223.  I believe it, as I have a little over 6000 rounds through mine so far, with no perceptible throat erosion and no loss of accuracy.
 
It produces so little recoil that with a reasonable rifle weight, it doesn't jar the rifle enough to prevent you from spotting your own shots through the scope at long range.  It's commonly believed that you can do this with any .22 cal centerfire, but this is not the case, as even the slightest jolt in the rifle is enough to move the target out of the sight picture at high magnification.  With 39 gr. SBK's and a near max charge of Benchmark powder, I'm getting bughole groups.  It's an amazing little cartridge!  There's nothing that the .22-250 and .220 Swift will do that it won't, but it does it with less powder, less barrel wear, less recoil, and about the same wind resistance.  That's what I call a winning combination!
 
The only disadvantage I've seen for this round is you have to use a small diameter cleaning rod, and a smaller diameter powder funnel when reloading.
 
What gun to use? Rem, Ruger, Savage?
I hear the Savage 204's are nasty accurate
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Buy yourself a White Oak AR barrel.  30 rounds of .204 on tap for varminting would be a lot of fun.  Thunbs Up
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Originally posted by stork23raz stork23raz wrote:

What gun to use? Rem, Ruger, Savage?
I hear the Savage 204's are nasty accurate
 
You heard right!  Mine is a Sako 75 Varmint, but it is no longer available.  Which rifle to use is a personal preference thing, but from what I've seen, among those choices, you'll have the best chance of super accuracy from the various Savage heavy barreled varmint rifles.
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  I'd been thinking awhile back of what I'd put together for a walk-about varmint rig.  Someone on another thread suggested a Rem 700 ADL in .223 w/the bbl cut to 20" and put in a factory Ti stock.  Would be NICE especially w/a SS 3-9.
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yea. i were i live now i just got about 150 yards in the back yard then all thick woods so i just use my 17 and 22. but im gettn ready to move t o aplace were i will have alto mroe to shoota nd alot longer distances. maybe one year ill break down and by me big savage 204 and zeiss and and shoot some pest
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anybody shoot yotes with 204  at 250-300+

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I don't recall ever shooting one at those distances with the .204, simply because I've not had a shot opportunity at one that far away up to this point.  They have typically come into sight to the call within 150 yards and under.  I've had no complaints of .204 performance on 'yotes, but our 'yotes are fairly small down here. 
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I run a .17 HMR on anything inside 200, and a 22-250 on anything beyond......300 wby for backup. It's my "long range varmint" gun.
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My favorite varmint cartridge/rifle would be my .204 Cooper Model 21 w/26" barrel. Have a second Cooper 38 Phoenix in .221 Fireball for a shorter-range "walking" varminter on order. The .204 beats out my .22-250 only because you don't lose target in scope after shot. However, if were going after long-range coyotes would go with a .243.
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