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I'm new to reloading, I hunt Deer & Elk, so I like to use the same bullet on both. This way my rifles will always shoot the same and I'm not messing with POI a couple times a year. My primary interests in bullets have been the Nosler Accubond and the Barnes TTSX or TSX. Some bullets that just really got my attention tonight as I was on the Hornady site is the Hornady Interbond, SST and GMX, although the GMX requires fairly high velocities to open properly. Killing Deer is really no big deal, most soft point bullets can accomplish it accurately. But what is your most potent and accurate Elk bullet? and if you do not hunt Elk, What is your favorite bullet for shooting Big Hogs? or Bear?.     Thanks Guys!! I appreciate your input!!!   JF
 
 
 
 


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My only experience with taking an elk was with a 180gr Sierra Gameking out of a 30-06. While Gamekings don't have the best reputation on heavier game, they worked very good for me. IMO, while very limited, the most important thing is being able to hit where your aiming in all conditions. After that is just a matter of physics.YMMV
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Hey Julio
 
What caliber?
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Smile     7mm-08, 270wsm, 7mm Mag.
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Swift A-frame and Nosler Partition have always been my bullet of choice (30.06 & 7mm).

Living in California I know my " go to" days are numbers so I've been researching into switching to some sort of TTSX type bullet for a couple of years now. Since there've been many new bullets coming down the pipe since the introduction of the TSX, I'm still on the fence as to which one to pick. I'll will let you know in about six months. Big Smile





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Originally posted by JF4545 JF4545 wrote:

Smile     7mm-08, 270wsm, 7mm Mag.
 
7mm-08 - 140 gr TTSX
270WSM - 140 gr Accubond
7 mag - 160 gr Accubond
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when i hunted elk living in wyoming all i ever used was sierra game king. we never lost any elk from .243 to 300win mag. now a days i wouldnt be affraid to take them after elk again. i would choose the accubonds for todays choices.
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I've had good luck on elk with both the 150 grain nosler partition and the 140 grain barnes TSX out of my 270 win.  I will probably stick with the TSX, though.  The exit wound seemed small with the partition.
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I use Sierra Game Kings and Trophy Bonded Bear Claws. SGK's in everything and the BC's I have for 7RM and .375 H&H. The Bear Claws shoot close to where the Game Kings do.
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I'm sitting in a deer blind in west Texas with a 375H&H with 270TSX loads in the magazine because I can, but...

sakomato nailed it for you. I might change the 7mm-08 load to 140 Accubonds also, though. In any event, TSXs or Accubonds will perform well, just shoot the ones your rifle likes. I killed a 6x7 elk outside of Marathon, Tx last month with my 280AI and I can assure you the 160 Accubond was adequate. Complete passthrough both shoulders. He was DRT, no flop, just folded up and fell down dead. About 175 yards.

I like Accubonds.

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In .308 Win, I've used the 165 gr. Accubond as an all-around combination of relatively decent BC and velocity. It has worked great on antelope and deer - never requiring a follow-up shot or ruining meat. Of course, shot placement is key to that as well. On elk it has been a good round but sometimes required a second shot. At really close ranges, they do not open up but according to the Nosler rep I know, he says even Partitions don't at that range.

Given the smaller diameter on the 7-08 I'd try the 160 Accubond or 175 gr. Partition. You'll want some heft for elk and the higher BCs will make help with wind and impact energy.
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Nosler Accubonds....are great bullets.
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I use hornady a sierras almost exclusively, I haven't encountered a problem yet with a cup/core bullet.
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Originally posted by lucytuma lucytuma wrote:

I use hornady a sierras almost exclusively, I haven't encountered a problem yet with a cup/core bullet.
 
Hi Jeff, What style of Hornady do you use and for what do you use them?
 
The very first loads I ever loaded for Deer were the Sierra BT's and they worked great. Im just talking abot bigger game mostly, although I will use the Elk loads for Deer as well. You can shoot a Deer in the lungs with anything and not bloodshot any meat....
 
Although I already have a bunch of Barnes TTSX, I think Im gonna stick to the Nosler Accubonds. Ive been reading alot on the net and I have yet to hear one negative thing about the Accubonds. The only bad thing I hear about the TSX or TTSX(same thing) is that a barrel tends to foul using the solid copper. I really do not want to mess with that problem so I think the Accubond is the way to go...I want to just have one load for each rifle and keep it simple. Thats once I find the best load for them. Ive got 3 rifles in the shop getting braked, one getting painted flat black, one getting a trigger job and the other two having there triggers adjusted....
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I use the SSt's and Interlocks, though I must add that I normally choose a heavy bullet for caliber if hunting anything larger than deer.  I also use appropriate caliber for game and do what I can to make sensible shots. 
 To me this "bullet craze" is getting out of control, very simular to the 1000 camo patterns we have to choose from.   Yes, the new bullets are good, but they don't make up for poor shot placement any better than great camo makes up for poor scent control.
 
 
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I like the Accubond as well, but I'm also of the school of "use what works for you." I think that if you use what shoots accurately, and you feel comfortable shooting, and you have confidence in, you will be fine. I think if people put as much thought as to where to put the bullet as they did what bullet to use, there would be fewer wounded animals out there. Not to say bullets don't fail, but the majority of the time, if you put the bullet where it belongs, it will do it's job.
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Ten years ago we didn't have accubond, gmx, tsx, interbond, scirocco2, xp3, tssx or E-tip. It's still a mystery how we harvested anything?

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Originally posted by JF4545 JF4545 wrote:

Originally posted by lucytuma lucytuma wrote:

I use hornady a sierras almost exclusively, I haven't encountered a problem yet with a cup/core bullet.
 
Hi Jeff, What style of Hornady do you use and for what do you use them?
 
The very first loads I ever loaded for Deer were the Sierra BT's and they worked great. Im just talking abot bigger game mostly, although I will use the Elk loads for Deer as well. You can shoot a Deer in the lungs with anything and not bloodshot any meat....
 
Although I already have a bunch of Barnes TTSX, I think Im gonna stick to the Nosler Accubonds. Ive been reading alot on the net and I have yet to hear one negative thing about the Accubonds. The only bad thing I hear about the TSX or TTSX(same thing) is that a barrel tends to foul using the solid copper. I really do not want to mess with that problem so I think the Accubond is the way to go...I want to just have one load for each rifle and keep it simple. Thats once I find the best load for them. Ive got 3 rifles in the shop getting braked, one getting painted flat black, one getting a trigger job and the other two having there triggers adjusted....
 
Hey Julio, the Accubonds are indeed a fine bullet.  But don't steer away from the TTSX's because of copper fouling.  Excessive copper fouling is a residual rumor left over from the original Barnes X bullets which were foulers.  I have shot a lot of TSX's.  Used to save the plastic boxes believing I would find some use for them eventually.  When I finally decided to throw them away there was a box of 27 TSX boxes and that was 3 or 4 years ago.  TSX's do not copper foul any more than regular cup and core or gilding metal jacketed bullets.
 
What I would steer away from is using a TSX in a small caliber, let's say <.284".  The reason is the hollow point in the smaller calibers is too small IMO and is often partially occluded with detritus
 
338, 308, 284, 277, 6.5
 
Now the TTSX is different because the hollow point behind the blue tip is significantly larger as evidenced by this pic of a 338 TSX and 338 TTSX with the tip broken off
 
However I would not hesitate to use a regular TSX in .308 and larger or a TTSX in the smaller calibers.  I had 2 failures in TSX's in 270 caliber on hogs where I aimed for the vitals behind the shoulder.  This 270 was very accurate and I was running it very hot
 
anyway in both cases I took the shot and had a lot of tracking with blood at shoulder level on grass stems until the trail petered out and died.  I can only surmise that the TSX blew through without opening.  I do not think the same thing would have happened with the TTSX.
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Bob,

I think you mentioned the TSX Hollow Point being to small to me awhile back, or perhaps I read it somewhere. It does not matter as I sent all the unopened boxes of TSX bullets back to Midway. Then I replaced them with TTSX, just because of this issue....Its really good to know that there is no truth to the copper fouling problem as well...From everything Ive read, these are 2 of the best bullets so why not use them. I think your right, this fall I shot a buck at 150 yards using the TSX 140gr. in a box of Federal I bought. The bullet went exactly where I wanted to place it which was behind the shoulder thru both lungs. I did not find the bullet, although I do not believe the bullet expanded in the soft tissue. The exit hole was very small and the Deer stumbled about 150' down the hill to me and fell dead about 25' away....I think these bullets are more of an Elk bullet meant to blow through bone...They are a very tough bullet....Thanks Bob, you are always very helpful!Smile


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Originally posted by sakomato sakomato wrote:

Originally posted by JF4545 JF4545 wrote:

Smile     7mm-08, 270wsm, 7mm Mag.
 
7mm-08 - 140 gr TTSX
270WSM - 140 gr Accubond
7 mag - 160 gr Accubond
+1  I use Accubonds on every hunting rifle I have.  My brother just took an elk with his 7mm Mag and the 160gr Accubonds bullets I made for him. Excellent
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I might try out the TTSXs in .30 cal, 168 gr. The tested BC is pretty close to that of the 165 gr. Accubond. I'm a little surprised that Barnes doesn't go any higher than 150 gr. for the TTSX in 7mm. I'd still recommend a heavier bullet for elk.
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I load more Sierra Matchkings than anything else but I have always liked Nosler Partitions.
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Here is my quick 7 seconds Swift 140, 160 , 175 long distance game...you can guess which order for the calibers you listed... Lapua 160 Naturalis for any game at reasonable distances that you might be worried about...

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You just have to love the selection of bullets available today.
I like every bullet in my considerable inventory except the real thin- skinned super- explosive types made for varmints as they can't be pushed to the higher velocities- I won't be buying more of those as the novelty factor isn't worth it.

After digging bullets out of berms fired at different ranges, it seems as though the non- bonded boat tails from every mfg. will shed the cores at closer ranges while the flat base bullets generally do not. The flat based bullets hold together better... haven't any experience w/bonded- core boat tails, though.

Being a .30 cal fan, I've run .311/.312 bullets through Lee .308 swaging dies to get bullet configurations unavailable in .30, most notably Remington Core-Lokt .311 180gr.  round nose and Hornady .312 174gr. round nose.
The Core-Lokt bullets are tough stuff and effective under just about any circumstance... it's a shame they aren't priced at a discount like they used to be.
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