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338 win mag 338 ultar mag 338 federal 338 weatherby mag 338 Lapua
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http://www.chuckhawks.com/338_federal_first_look.htm  338 Federal  (Basic bigger bullet in smaller case for med action)

 

http://www.chuckhawks.com/super_338_Mags.htm         338 Lapua  (416 Rigby necked down - Mil, Long Range)

 

http://jagt.net/Weatherby/300/index.htm   300 Weatherby

(My new fav  -  Large, Fast, Flat Shooter in a light accurate rifle; what isn't there to like... )

To keep it fair and balanced here is an article by "Chuck." http://www.chuckhawks.com/cannons_field.htm  "Cannons in the field"

 

http://www.chuckhawks.com/338rem_ultra_mag.htm        338 Ultra Mag



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the .338 mag kills things extra dead the 338 ultra steps it up a notch the 300 weatherby of course is a .308 but the performance is similar to the ultra i believe the weatherby's are based off the H&H case. if you wanna know about the 338 lapua pm mike mcdonald he will tell you all you need to know  the 338 federal is just a 308 case necked up to .338 they say the ballistics are similar to that of a 7mm according to federal, i dont know how much of that is hype. are you looking at buying one of the above mentioned??

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The 338 Lapua is a long range sniper cartridge an in current use by Canadian snipers where U.S. snipers seem to use .308 and 50BMG as those cartridges are far more readily available.

.338 Win Mag is popular where large bears hunt the hunters and is a strong solid cartridge for Moose Elk, Caribou in Bear country however I much prefer just going right to .375 H&H which I feel is the logical next step up from 30-06. As for hunting cartridges .308 and 30-06 seem to be an ideal mix of what works well and what you can find ammo for even in remote places. If you want to select a caliber to hunt with walk into walmart and look at  what they sell bullets for if you cant find it there just try finding it in the middle of nowhere

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i have been thinking about some of these necked up jobbies and to me it seems stupid, lets look at a couple of examples and see if anyone agrees with me or if i am all wet.

 

.308 win lets neck it up to .338federal, to me this isnt smart cause to me the most effectiveness of the rounds design ends at .308,

the 30-06 is the same way but some one got the bright idea to neck it up to .338 as well from 25-06 to 30-06 soild performance in the .257 .264 .277 .284 and .308 classes but the .338 step up seems to be useless, you dont gain anything especially after 100 yards, i think the 325 wsm is the same way they got all the snort that the case could possibly give with the 300wsm the 325 is a waste the .338 lapua and .338 win seem like much more logical choices.

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Pyro, there's some truth to what you're saying -- if you plan to use the "necked up" smaller cased cartridge for long range shooting.  However, SD is SD and bullet mass is bullet mass, regardless of how fast it's driven, and in short to medium range hunting situations (basically the majority of the shots taken), these cartridges deliver plenty of energy for taking larger animals.  The real advantage to these cartridges -- besides the rifle and ammo manufacturers creating excitement over something new to increase sales -- is allowing one to go after larger game with a rifle having a shorter action, saving a little weight and length.

 

I do agree with you, though -- to me, when it comes to a medium bore big game rifle, once you start dropping below about 2500 fps due to greater bullet mass, I think you're beginning to stretch the usefulness of the case size you're using.  if I'm getting a new 8mm or .338 caliber rifle, I'd choose a cartridge that delivers that heavier bullet with a little more speed and flatter trajectory to take full advantage of the performance offered by todays "super bullets."

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Originally posted by RifleDude RifleDude wrote:

Pyro, there's some truth to what you're saying -- if you plan to use the "necked up" smaller cased cartridge for long range shooting.  However, SD is SD and bullet mass is bullet mass, regardless of how fast it's driven, and in short to medium range hunting situations (basically the majority of the shots taken), these cartridges deliver plenty of energy for taking larger animals.  The real advantage to these cartridges -- besides the rifle and ammo manufacturers creating excitement over something new to increase sales -- is allowing one to go after larger game with a rifle having a shorter action, saving a little weight and length.

 

I do agree with you, though -- to me, when it comes to a medium bore big game rifle, once you start dropping below about 2500 fps due to greater bullet mass, I think you're beginning to stretch the usefulness of the case size you're using.  if I'm getting a new 8mm or .338 caliber rifle, I'd choose a cartridge that delivers that heavier bullet with a little more speed and flatter trajectory to take full advantage of the performance offered by todays "super bullets."

 

i guess i am saying that more than likely the animals being pursued in these cases with these larger diameter bullets i want dead asap

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Originally posted by pyro6999 pyro6999 wrote:

i guess i am saying that more than likely the animals being pursued in these cases with these larger diameter bullets i want dead asap

 

Aw, come on Pyro; where's your sense of adventure??? 

 

 

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your right, i wouldnt have any fear taking a 6.5mm rifle to africa heck chris did it and he still alive today, and i think most if not all the animals he shot went down on the first squeeze
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