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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote bert gummer Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: July/04/2010 at 22:18

Here's a thought, If you go to a big cabelas or gander mountain

store they have the scopes mounted so you can get a first hand look

and when you look through them you can see the Quality, When I first

looked through a swarvo and a ziess I knew they were worth the $$
I think the high end leupold and burris are good also......
I think it's great they do this, some others stores may also????????
at least you know what your getting before you buy, also any good
scope manufacture will offer a unlimited lifetime warranty to let
you know they make the best Quality and stand behind it.......
 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Alan Robertson Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: July/05/2010 at 04:34
Might be worth the wait...
http://www.opticstalk.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=20674

For more info, search for Koshkin's (and others) Shot Show review.



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Viper PST 4–16x50 FFP Riflescope with EBR-1 MRAD Reticle  $849.95 would sound like a possible choice.  A lot of scopes simply dont have enough internal adjustment to get you to 1000 yds. The Leupold VX3 and Mk4 scopes do have quite a bit of adjustment so I would also consider this one:
Leupold 6.5-20x50 VX-3 30mm Riflescope
Varmint Hunters Leupold 6.5-20x50 VX-3 30mm Riflescope
Stock # - LEU66585
  • Matte
  • Varmint Hunters
  • 30mm
  • Long Range
  • Target Knobs
  • Side Focus
  • Free Sun Shade
  • Xtended Twilight Lens System
$969.95
Another good choice would be:
Leupold 4.5-14x40 Mark 4 LR/T 30mm Riflescope
Duplex Leupold 4.5-14x40 Mark 4 LR/T 30mm Riflescope
Stock # - LEU56140
  • Matte
  • Duplex
  • 30mm
  • Long Range
  • Side Focus
  • Target Knobs
$754.95

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[QUOTE=Urimaginaryfrnd]Viper PST 4–16x50 FFP Riflescope with EBR-1 MRAD Reticle  $849.95 would sound like a possible choice.  A lot of scopes simply dont have enough internal adjustment to get you to 1000 yds. The Leupold VX3 and Mk4 scopes do have quite a bit of adjustment so I would also consider this one:
Leupold 6.5-20x50 VX-3 30mm Riflescope
Varmint Hunters Leupold 6.5-20x50 VX-3 30mm Riflescope
Stock # - LEU66585
  • Matte
  • Varmint Hunters
  • 30mm
  • Long Range
  • Target Knobs
  • Side Focus
  • Free Sun Shade
  • Xtended Twilight Lens System
$969.95
Another good choice would be:
Leupold 4.5-14x40 Mark 4 LR/T 30mm Riflescope
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Before you spend any money I think you should borrow (if needed) whatever scope you can in the power range you mentioned in your initial post and test it at the longest distance you think you will be shooting. Make a couple of targets to help you decide if that power range is good for you. Find some cardboard or sheet metal that is 30"X30" and paint it white. Then make a 12'X12" square in the center that is black. Make another the same size but make the 30X30 back ground dk green or brown with the black center. Set these up about forty feet apart or enough that you can't see them both together. Now with your 10, 12 or 14 power scope judge what you see and how the cross hairs cover the targets.
Then if you can try it with a 17 or 20 power scope and see how much faster you can aquire the targets. For your budget you can get a scope that will serve you well. IOR builds scopes that track perfectly and have great glass with turrets that are very easy and some good rectiles to choose from. Zeiss is probably the best you will do for glass quality in this price range but, not the Conquest. The Conquest is a great scope but, one major cut for price is the coating quality. If you stay with IOR or Zeiss with the 30mm tubes you will get the adjustment you need plus some. Leupold makes great scopes but, for the specifics you want I would expect to get better service from the Zeiss or IOR. Some will say that going to 17 or 20 power will cost you on close range shooting because 4 or 6 power low end is too much for shots inside 50yds. I disagree. Take any scope and check its clearity on 6 power at 20yds. If the scope isn't junk the pic will be clear. Watch the Samplelist for sales on Zeiss and IOR. And I haven't had one but based on the guys here that have the SS by SWFA should be a serious contender.
Also I recommend staying with a 50mm obj or better. It will not have any serious impact on cheek weld and will offer maxium light for late day shooting. There is some debate on objective size for light transmission but, why have the quality glass/coatings that Zeiss or IOR offers and not give that glass/coatings optimal oppertunity to perform. Here are some to consider. Good luck! Let us know what you go with.
 
A bit over budget but it was on the samplelist.
 
These IOR are 35mm tubes but the rings are included. Offered new at SWFA.
 
The MP-8 rectile is awesome.
 
Your only hope of getting a Zeiss with turret adj and the power range needed in your budget will be on the samplelist or from a individual sale.
 


Edited by Sgt. D - July/11/2010 at 10:10
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote neilbilly Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: July/11/2010 at 10:18

Very nice Father's Day present. "I got cards and Jelly Beans" Shocked


With the budget you have I'd buy another rifle as it's a tall order to fill having a scope that you use hunting where you might get a 50 yard shot, and also be able to shoot distance on varmits. 


Just my .02 but I think you can easily do another rifle and 2 scopes for $1500

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