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I am wanting to purchase a pair of binoculars for deer/turkey/varmit hunting in North Carolina/South Carolina and Georgia.  I want them to be water proof, rugged, reliable and fog proof.  I would never abuse them but in case they fell or got wet I would want them to still work.  Not sure how much I want to spend but probably no more then $1000 and not sure I really need a $1000 pair.  Below are ones that I am interested in and different price ranges.  I would love to hear from the optic experts here on the best glass or best to worst in each group.  Does any one recommend 32 mm over 40/42?  I do like to walk and stalk alot when hunting.  I would probably hunt with them 20 days a year.  Should I get a 7x, 8x or 10x?  I have looked through a 10x and they are hard for me to hold steady and I don't wear glasses.  Thanks for your help in advance and feel free to suggest any other binoculars that I may have missed suggested

 

$0-$500 range

1.) Bushnell Legends 8x42 or 10x42

2.) Nikon Action Extreme 8x42 or 10x50

3.) Nikon Monarch 8x42 or 10x42

4.) Leupold Pinicle or Olympic 8x42 or 10x42

 

$500-$100 price range from "The Samplelist"

1.) Kahles 8x32, 8x42 or 10x42

2.) Leica Trivoid 8x32, 8x42 or 10x42

3.) Swarovski 8x30 or 7x40 SLC's

4.) Zeiss 8x40 or 10x40 Victory II's or new Victory FL's

 

Which is the better brand overall Leica, Swarovski or Zeiss?

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Think about the Pentax 8X43 SP's at $600.  I use these a lot.  They are better than all the lower priced binocs you mentioned and not too far below Leica, Zeiss and Swaro.  If you want something as good as those for a little less money, consider the Nikon LXL's.
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Based on my experiences:

 

Out of the first group I was fairly impressed with everything but the Action Extreme. Too large, too heavy and the image quality was not as good as the Monarchs in my opinion.

 

In the second group I am surprised you have some of those models listed because most of the high end bins, Zeiss FL, Leica Trinovid, etc... are at least $1000 if not significantly more than that.

 

I would agree with the above post in that the Pentax DCF-SP in 8x43 would be a great choice in terms of quality versus price. You can still get very good performance from those bins you listed in group one and considering the amount of days you plan on using them throughout the year that group might be the better investment. Only you can really determine if you the cost is justifiable based on the number of days you hunt. However, I have seen the Pentaxs for as little as $425 at some places while they regularly retail at places like Cabelas for right at $600. If you can find them in the $400-$450 price range then I would snag them.

 

As for the 8x versus 10x debate and the 32 mm versus 42 mm argument.....personally I prefer 8x and if you do opt to go for the less expensive glass then I would opt for the 42 mm. For hunting light transmission is very important as much activity occurs in low light situations. However, high end glass usually has very high quality coatings that allow better light transmission. If you go high end then I would still consider 32 mm as I think the overall size makes them more compact and portable for spot and stalk type hunting.

 

Lastly, though not on your list, consider the Nikon Premier LXL in 8x32. It would fit under your $1000 price cap by about $100 and offers $1000+ performance.

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Thanks Frank, I was mentioning the high end binoculars on the Sample List and there are several Swarovski, Leica and Zeiss on there for under $1000.  I will check out eh Pextax DCF SPs.
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Since you say you have a hard time holding a 10X steady, that should end the question in relation to this magnification.  Between what's left I would opt for the 8X as there are more/better options and because I think 7X is not quite enough magnification. Others will disagree and I even know of people who swear by 6X optics. My Dad used 7X for a long time and still would if his binocular had been offered in a 7X. 

 

In the under $500 range I personally would buy either the Leupold Pinnacle or the Bushnell Discoverer. I would buy the 10X, but the Pinnacle is available as an 8X and the Discoverer as a 7X.

 

In the under $1000 range I would be choosing between  Kahles, Leupold Gold Ring, and Bushnell Elite. My personal inclination would tend to be for the Leupold as it has the greater FOV in both 8X and 10X. 

 

However, I must concur with what has already been said by mentioning that, if I were going to spend up to $1000 on a binocular I would really consider trying to stretch my budget somehow so as to buy the Nikon Premier LXL. 

 

I almost forgot to mention; I don't personally care for 30-36mm objective lenses because I don't think they allow the binocular to be enough smaller/lighter than the 40-42mm objective lens models to be of sufficient benefit. Also, they cannot perform as well in low light as their full size brethren.  For hunting I think 40mm is the smallest acceptable size (and 50mm would be my largest acceptable size) for a primary, non-specialty binocular.

 

If I go smaller, I go much smaller and buy a true compact (20-26mm objective lenses.) I lose some optical performance but, I gain huge amounts of portability and convenience which allows me the option of carrying a binocular in my pocket everywhere I go (which is exactly what I do.)



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Get the Pentax DCF SP 8x43's and never look back. Full USA warranty and brand spanking new!
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I will echo what has been said here in selecting a 8x42 roof prism bino. I feel it gives you a good balance for portability and plenty of brightness for bino's in the $500 range. In the $1000 arena (samplelist, that is) it would be difficult to say which bino is better than the other when comparing a Zeiss to a Swarovski to a Leica. Kinda like saying which is better, a Ferrari, a Porsche or a Lamborghini.

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Originally posted by Roy Finn Roy Finn wrote:

I Kinda like saying which is better, a Ferrari, a Porsche or a Lamborghini.



Or a blonde, brunette, or redhead....
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Originally posted by FrankD FrankD wrote:

 

Lastly, though not on your list, consider the Nikon Premier LXL in 8x32. It would fit under your $1000 price cap by about $100 and offers $1000+ performance.




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