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illuminated reticles of any kind
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Good idea but I don't like batteries, Trijicon has the best design.

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They are nice for hunting varmints (not allow to hunt with them for Big game in Montana) at low light and at night.  Downside - batteries.  The XTR I have eats batteries.  Never played with a Trijicon.
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 Sometimes they are a necessary evil.
 The technologies currently being used still have a long way to go.
 Aimpoint seems to have battery life figured out pretty well with their red-dot sights, though.
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Definitely agree with you there Ronk.  Aimpoint has it figured out.  I really would like one for my AR-15.  Seems like a lot of the hunting scopes with Illum reticles need help with the battery life.
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+1 on Aimpoints and battery life.

The Trijicons are sweet too. The new green colored reticles are very bright and my favorite of the three. All the scopes have tritium that eventually fades after so many years.

If you have the dough, the z6 illumination is real nice. I love very effective orange color they use and day/night settings. I'm not sure what the "shelf life" is on the batteries.
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I was looking at some just browsing and scoping out different reticles. oh and as corny as it was the pun was intended

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  Bushnell's Fire Fly reticle. Batteries are only needed for your flashlight.
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Illuminated reticles are legal to hunt in some states (Texas included) and, in those dawn and dusk situations - or hunting hogs at night - the reticle can be the difference between taking the shot and not.

I like illumination, but depending on batteries does suck.

The Trijicon Accupoints work well.

The Firefly reticle was too thick for my liking.
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  Supposedly Bushnell has thinned it up some. Have you seen the newer ones?
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No, just an older one a friend bought, I mounted, we both shot, we both disliked, took it off and put on a Vortex.  I like the Vortex more.
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I like illumination as long as it can be dialed down so that it doesn't light out the target. My Leapers is blinding in low light, my Kahles CSX is outstanding. The Kahles can be adjusted down to very low illumination and it is easy to put it on game at dark.
I don't mind carrying extra batteries. I've been doing it for my GPS' and flashlights.


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Originally posted by tahqua tahqua wrote:

I like illumination as long as it can be dialed down so that it doesn't light out the target. My Leapers is blinding in low light, my Kahles CSX is outstanding. The Kahles cam be adjusted down to very low illumination and it is easy to put it on game at dark.
I don't mind carrying extra batteries. I've been doing it for my GPS' and flashlights.


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The Aimpoint and z6 can be dialed up and down day or night. The Trijicon is a different story.
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I have several illuminated reticle scopes and LOVE them!  Here in Texas, they are legal, as long as you use them within the confines of legal hunting hours.  They are very helpful for deer hunting at first and last light.  I use them most for varmint and feral hog hunting at night, however. 

A well designed lit reticle scope should have a rheostat adjustment with a broad intensity range for varying light conditions,  providing just enough contrast in low light to be able to clearly see the reticle against a dark background AND NO MORE.  As Doug mentioned, too much illumination is a bad thing; it can flare out the target, impairing your night vision.

I think the concern for batteries and battery life is way overstated.  First, the better illuminated scopes have storage in the windage cap for a spare battery, in the event your battery dies on you (check it before you go out on a hunt).  Second, as long as you don't leave it on all the time, battery life is quite long on all of my lit scopes.  Even if you do, most of the digital illumination controls on current scopes will turn the reticle off after a certain amount of time anyway.  One of the features of a good lit scope is a switch that can be turned on quickly and easily right before the conditions warrant its use so you can preserve battery life.  Use it only when needed, and the battery will last a very long time, and at least on mine, that means 3 years or so!  Third, even if the battery dies and you don't have a spare... what's the big deal?  That doesn't mean the scope is totally useless at that point.  The reticle still functions like a traditional all-black reticle when illumination dies, so you are no more at a disadvantage than you would be with any other scope.  If you selected a well designed reticle for low light with thick outer bars and a scope with good light transmission, the scope is still very usable in low light, albeit not quite as useful as with illumination.

If you are concerned about batteries, the Trijicon Accupoint scopes are very nice.  I have 2 of them, and have been very pleased with them.  However, optically, they don't have quite the low light performance of my higher end lit reticle scopes.
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I have a couple different ones, and have commented on them below:
 
Trijicon - nice, no batts, can be a bit bright even after adjusting the fiber optic
Bushnell Firefly - reticle posts are a bit thick
Sightron SII = only three adjustments, a bit bright on low
Swarovski - good during daylight and night
Kahles Helia (1st gen) - can't be seen during daylight
Kahles CB - same as above
Kahles CBX - good during day and night, top of the line electronics for automatic shutoff.  easily adjusted
 
I haven't burned out the battery in the Helia, Swaro and Sightron unless they've been left on when stored.
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One of my big concerns with anything that uses batteries is you take the chance of having it ruined by battery leakage.  We have all had a flashlight or radio destroyed by batteries that have gone bad so I tend to take the battery out if storing an illuminated optic for any significant length of time.   I like the Trijicon's and I like the aimpoints. I have had some issues with the battery in the Bushnell Trophy  but for the price its hard to beat it for coyotes after dark.
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Originally posted by Urimaginaryfrnd Urimaginaryfrnd wrote:

One of my big concerns with anything that uses batteries is you take the chance of having it ruined by battery leakage.  We have all had a flashlight or radio destroyed by batteries that have gone bad so I tend to take the battery out if storing an illuminated optic for any significant length of time.   I like the Trijicon's and I like the aimpoints. I have had some issues with the battery in the Bushnell Trophy  but for the price its hard to beat it for coyotes after dark.


+1

I do this with almost everything that uses batteries if it's going to be sitting unused for an extended period of time.




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Originally posted by Urimaginaryfrnd Urimaginaryfrnd wrote:

One of my big concerns with anything that uses batteries is you take the chance of having it ruined by battery leakage.  We have all had a flashlight or radio destroyed by batteries that have gone bad so I tend to take the battery out if storing an illuminated optic for any significant length of time.   I like the Trijicon's and I like the aimpoints. I have had some issues with the battery in the Bushnell Trophy  but for the price its hard to beat it for coyotes after dark.
 I worry about battery leakage as well. 
 I would freak out to open the safe and find a nice rifle or scope (or several!) half devoured by leaking battery acid! Haven't seen it in years, though; the newer batteries must not be as prone to that as they were years ago.
 I think every Rayovac flashlight my Dad ever owned disintegrated eventually in a puddle of brown goo... 
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I don't think leakage is an issue with the watch style batteries used with illuminated scopes.  If it were, you'd hear about this problem in watches and hearing aids, which obviously require the batteries to remain in these devices constantly.
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 I'm sure you're right, Ted.  I've never seen a watch battery leak, now that you mention it.
 Still just a little uneasy about the whole thing. 
 
 (If it ever happened, it would happen to ME... and probably twice....)   Say What
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Originally posted by RONK RONK wrote:

 I'm sure you're right, Ted.  I've never seen a watch battery leak, now that you mention it.
 Still just a little uneasy about the whole thing. 
 
 (If it ever happened, it would happen to ME... and probably twice....)   Say What


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Given certain situations, the illuminated reticles are indispensible. I thoroughly like having the option available to me should the situation warrant the use of it. The Nikon Monarch X has a very good illuminated system should anyone wonder about that.
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I'm a firm believer in the KISS method.  Keep it simple stupid.  I've never needed an illuminated reticle and will probably never own one.  I see the need in some applications and not in others.  I'm still trying to figure out why Nightforce benchrest scopes are only available with IR's. 
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I think they would be fun if they didn't weigh ten pounds.  Just another gadget.  Probably have some use in dark situations.  Something to fool with.  Enjoy.   Big Grin
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