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scubasteve
Optics Apprentice Joined: June/01/2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 104 |
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Posted: June/01/2006 at 09:38 |
Trying to get a feel of what you optic gurus think about Weaver. I have 2 steel tube K-4W's on my swamp guns and love them. Both of these scopes were given to me by folks "upgrading". They have to be 30+ years old and still hold true and don't fog up. I have a newer V-9 on my "sidewalk hunter" rifle. It has also been very dependable. I hunt mostly in close quarters and the ability of my optics to be fog free and on are the 2 features that I need most. Currently I am looking at the 2.5x fixed for my 742 carbine and the 2.5-7x for my BLR 7mm-08. I know that Weavers are made in Jaypan nowadays and was wondering if they are as good as the older models. I like the prices (married blue collar w/ 3 kids) and can't afford/justify to wife spending too much for optics. I'm new to the site and must say that reading thru the post, I am ASTOUNDED by the knowledge of this crew. Keep up the good work!!! |
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Acenturian
Optics Journeyman Joined: September/07/2004 Status: Offline Points: 543 |
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Scuba:
If you do a search here on the forum you will notice that the new Weaver scopes come highly recomended. I personally love the Weaver Grand Slam I think it is one of the best buys out there. About the only complaints I'ver heard about the scope is that some people don't like the look of the focus ring. I don't mind it, and if you hunt in cold weather with gloves you will love it. Also, the eye relief is a bit short compared to some other scope manufactures.
The shorter eye relief is only a problem if you put the gun on a hard kicking rifle. The optics on the Grand Slams are great. These are not the cheap Weavers that were found in drug stores in times past...the scopes can hold there own with some of the "higher" brands.
If you have a chance to put one up to your eyes, you will mostly likely be impressed. I know everyone that I hunt with when they have looked through one have been very pleased with the optical performance. It's great to see a good scope with a great name come back so strong.
PS Welcome to the forums
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koshkin
MODERATOR Dark Lord of Optics Joined: June/15/2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 13182 |
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Welcome aboard scubasteve!
Weaver makes great scopes for the money.
For an inexpensive short range scope, I would suggest you take a close look at Weaver V3. It is a small, light and clear scope that is quite affordable.
If you can spend more for a Grand Slam, 1.5-5x32 is excellent.
Other scopes you may consider are Burris Fullfield II 1.75-5x20 and 2-7x35. Both are under $200.
For wet weather a lot of people seem to like Bushnell Elite scopes that have Rainguard.
The 2-7x32 Elite 3200 may be worth looking at although I think Fullfield II has better glass.
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scubasteve
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My mind is made up then. Weaver I shall stay. As far as the GrandSlams------They are BUTT UGLY!!!! I want a pretty scope on my pretty rifles. I can't understand for the life of me why it is so hard to find a decent gloss scope nowadays. My rifles are pretty and shiny and I want a scope that is just as good looking. I hunt Sth. LA. in the Atchafalaya Basin and my guns get used pretty hard. While freezing weather is rather rare, cold rainy days are common. The v3 is the scope I was refering to. I found the 2.5-7 in Matte, but will inquiry as to the availibilty of a gloss.
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fourinone
Optics Apprentice Joined: January/14/2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 169 |
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I agree that the Weaver Grand Slam has room for improvement as far as looks, but they do have the independent tracking like found in their Target Scopes. I feel that they should make the A.O. ring a lower profile or better yet change to the side focus and cure that problem all together. Anyway I have one Weaver in the Rimfire Classic and like it a lot, but even the A.O. ring on this scope looks cheap and made of plastic. It works very well and it looks to be as good as some scopes that cost a $100.00+ more for a Rimfire Scope. |
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JPinSC
Optics Apprentice Joined: April/30/2005 Status: Offline Points: 105 |
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I have used a V3 for years on a heavy recoiling slug gun and second koshkin's recommendation.
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Longhunter
Optics Journeyman Joined: February/02/2006 Status: Offline Points: 466 |
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Scubasteve says: " I can't understand for the life of me why it is so hard to find a decent gloss scope nowadays."
Answer: Most hunters wear camo clothing in the woods, in order to be as inconspicous as possible. A shiny scope (think flashing semaphore signals!) doesn't quite quite fit in with this concept. It could give away your position. ( This might be a really bad thing if you are military!)
If you do prefer a gloss scope, then go for it! You're doing this for fun! (Being still, being quiet, and not being scented are all more important in woods hunting than the finish on your scope!)
Koshkin's recommendations are right on the money. The Weaver Grand Slam 1.5 x 5 is an excellent "close range" woods scope. It's light, reasonably bright, and has a great field of view. Nobody ever accused it of being pretty, though! The Burris Fullfield II scopes are also a fine choice.
The BLR is a great rifle! The 742 can be pretty accurate, too, if you find the right load. The one I had in 30-06 really liked 165 grain Speer Hot-Cores over a proper load of IMR 4895.
Welcome to the forum!
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scubasteve
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Well, Longhunter. I've never seen my scopes or rifles reflecting enough light to scare deer. We mainly hunt deer with hounds around here and reflections are the last things on a deers mind. I already have a 742 that I've been shooting 165 Sierra Bt's w/ IMR 4350 for years. They are an accurate enough gun. As far as camouflage goes, I have killed more deer wearing blue jeans and a gawd awfully bright LSU sweatshirt than with the cami's...LOL. Like I sayed, I likes my purty gunz. |
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